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Post by krh44 on Dec 17, 2005 23:00:15 GMT -5
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Post by HoldMyOwn on Dec 17, 2005 23:07:08 GMT -5
maybe i've had my head in the sand but that name isnt even ringing a bell
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Post by HoldMyOwn on Dec 17, 2005 23:08:17 GMT -5
no wonder he's pretty old, good stuff
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Post by baldspot on Dec 17, 2005 23:14:48 GMT -5
Who are you saying is pretty old?
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Post by HoldMyOwn on Dec 17, 2005 23:16:28 GMT -5
Who are you saying is pretty old? Sebastian....he played for us back in like 1988...I was thinkin a Sam Gado age or something....old for pro football...but good stuff he hung around with a few NFL teams...we've had quite a few guys like that, not a lot of attention like a Green or Gado, McKnight, Caswell, but who have hung around the NFL for a while
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Post by jvegas14 on Dec 18, 2005 9:24:15 GMT -5
When Sebastian was playing at Liberty back in the early '90's, he was totally dominant and no one could block him.
In practices, he woud make the LU lineman look like they had no skill whatsoever. He could REALLY get to the QB.
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Post by SCAR on Dec 18, 2005 14:06:57 GMT -5
I can back Vegas on that statement about Sebastian! It is good to see someone as "old" as us still getting it done at some level!
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Post by jvegas14 on Dec 18, 2005 18:45:37 GMT -5
Speaking of "old," Scar, where is Big Sy now? I know last year he was an asst. coach at UCF. Haven't heard since.
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Post by PAmedic on Dec 18, 2005 18:45:43 GMT -5
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Post by SCAR on Dec 18, 2005 23:13:23 GMT -5
Vegas, I am not sure where Eric Green is right now. I know he was at Central Fla last year and Stephon was trying to catch up with him when he took the Palm Beach Atlantic job but he was gone already. I saw Charles McCray last week but I forgot to ask about Eric. He usually keeps up. BTW McCray's son Zach is in 8th grade at Brookville and he looks like a grown man! He is a really good athlete too and will probably play basketball and football...Perhaps another future Flame.
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Post by jvegas14 on Dec 19, 2005 9:22:09 GMT -5
Hope so, Scar. If he's as good (or better) than his dad, LU would have a good one.
I still say the '89 LU football team was the best in school history.
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Post by SCAR on Dec 19, 2005 9:26:43 GMT -5
Vegas I know you are a bit biased about that 89 team because you have a connection but I have to agree with you. Total team with no weaknesses to speak of. Competed at a high level and if we could have pulled off that Youngstown St game at home, would have made it to the playoffs! Beat a 1A school that year too right? That group was special for sure.
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Post by jvegas14 on Dec 19, 2005 9:33:49 GMT -5
Yep. Beat an undefeated Eastern Michigan squad at their place. Justino (you ever see him play hoops?) played his first collegiate game and hit Eric in the endzone with little time left.
The YSU game was at their place and was sooooooo cold.
Still, what a complete football team. Deep at RB (McCary, Kinard), REALLY deep at WR and a bone-popping defense.
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Post by SCAR on Dec 19, 2005 9:41:41 GMT -5
Yes I did see Robbie play hoops. He was actually one of my biggest supporters along with you whenever I saw him in the halls. I gave the love back to all of you guys too. It was wierd because most football and basketball players didn't get along that well but I think I had more friends on the football team than anyone else. McCray, Donald Smith, Eric Carroll, Carroll Lee Ward, Vines, Justino, Kinard, Mickey Page, Ramon Scott and others were all good friends. Ike Logan, and my boy Scott Queen from Florida that went to school with KC Weldon were cool too. I knew Kasey Weldon from Scott and I didn't know he was the same kid that Florida St used at QB till years later! How dumb was I? (Don't answer that). Good ol days for sure!
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Post by Sly Fox on Dec 19, 2005 10:16:58 GMT -5
Casey Weldon allegedly had LU in his final 2-3 choices before Bobby Bowden sold him on the Christian atmosphere at FSU (Free Shoes Unlimited).
Whatever happened to Mickey Paige? I had him in a couple of classes and he was extremely cool.
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Post by jvegas14 on Dec 19, 2005 10:36:06 GMT -5
I didn't know anyone that didn't like Justino. He's a good guy.
I got along with the hoops' players. You, Stephon, Julius, Toomer, etc. etc., all of them. I think I had more fun w/ B-ball players.
Carroll Lee.. that's a blast from the past. I remember coming back from a game on the bus. Some of the guys on the team were giving him fits about his -- ummm -- teeth (eat apple pie through a picket fence). He took it well.
I have many good memories w/ my former teammates and hoops players.
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Post by SCAR on Dec 19, 2005 14:37:12 GMT -5
Baldspot, you were a great RA! I remember being in your dorm my freshman year (for a couple of months anyway) and then I hit the "big time" by moving to the basketball dorm...Weldon coming to Liberty was a real possibility but it just didn't happen although he really would have had a tough time sitting Robbie. Justino had a great arm and was a really good decision maker.
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Post by bigsmooth on Dec 19, 2005 15:07:42 GMT -5
a lot of old school names out there! the 89 team was the best in school history. soup was a beast when he was playing at LU! who was the other prairie view player who transferred to LU Besides soup? i remember playing spades with the football guys in de moss in the corner (where now there is a coffee bar) instead of going to class sometimes. it was fun back in the day!
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Post by jvegas14 on Dec 19, 2005 15:12:41 GMT -5
The other Prairie View transfer was George something.. I want to say Young. He was an offensive lineman.
The days in the corner of DeMoss are classic memories.
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Post by SCAR on Dec 19, 2005 15:47:26 GMT -5
Now you are talking my language. The old corner in demoss. There is no space like that in the school anymore because it is too big. You can go a whole sememster without running into certain people. Back when we were in school, we all passed each other pretty much every day in that very corner of demoss which eventually became known as Motown. Good times. HMO and others don't know how it was. In many ways their Liberty is better than ours but those were the things that make our Liberty experience better. By the way Smooth I really gipped you on the LaHaye tour. You gotta come back so I can show you the other academic hall ways.
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Post by jvegas14 on Dec 19, 2005 15:52:52 GMT -5
"MoTown" was the place to be back in the day if you wanted to creep (how's that for old school) on the ladies walking by. ;D
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Post by HoldMyOwn on Dec 19, 2005 16:03:10 GMT -5
HMO and others don't know how it was. Let me get this right...when you had to walk 10 miles in the snow....did yall have shoes on at this point?
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Post by PAmedic on Dec 19, 2005 16:04:15 GMT -5
uphill both ways. thru the ravine
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Post by bigsmooth on Dec 19, 2005 17:38:01 GMT -5
bringing up some great memories! i totally remember playing spades before chapel...now called convocation in the old liberty gym...now schilling center, and the RA's walking around telling everyone sitting on the wall to go to chapel, or sneaking off campus across the railroad tracks up by the old senior dorms, and walking from motown over to preppyville. SCAR knew it well as i did too to mix in both groups, gave you a lot of cred back in the day when LU was small. fun times indeed! im looking forward to coming up in january SCAR. have the suite ready.
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Post by SCAR on Dec 19, 2005 17:42:30 GMT -5
The Toomer Suite will be ready for you Smoothie when you get here! Yes I did thrive in Preppy ville and Motown thanks to my girlfriend Eden I was able to cross over.
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Post by jvegas14 on Dec 19, 2005 18:55:44 GMT -5
Thanks for the flashback, fellas. The students at LU today have it "better," so to speak. They're probably experiencing a truer college atmosphere. However, they missed out on such classics as: - SAGA - I got in on the tail-end of this .. truly an experience
- Hanging out in DeMoss between classes
- Getting to "observe" Cooper Taylor - the booger flicking was my personal favorite.
Now THERE is a classic!
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Post by baldspot on Dec 19, 2005 19:41:32 GMT -5
Cooper Taylor - LU's version of A Beatiful Mind Vangie Long - Miss Cheerful (once said hi to me from a mile away) and a football team loaded with talent - with a great RA on the third floor.
Funny story - two years later Eric Green gets me and a couple RD's tickets to see the Steelers and Browns play. Xmas weekend and extremely cold. We sat in the players section. There were three empty seats beside us. Just at kickoff, up walks Charles McCray and two nice ladies. With 65,000 seats, Charles couldn't believe Eric would get him tickets sitting beside two RD's.
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Post by Sly Fox on Dec 19, 2005 22:14:36 GMT -5
Cooper Taylor? You guys are killing me. That guy was everywhere. And Vangie? I hadn't thought about either of those two in 15 years. You kind of wonder whatever happened to those folks. SAGA (Soviet Attempt to Gag America) was amazing. It took cafeteria food to shocking new lows. I had PE with Eric Green, Wayne Haddix and a bunch of other football & basketball players. Eric used to call me 'BatMite' because I clearly was smaller in stature than everyone else there. Why I was in that class I'll never know. Manny Laso used to post on the old alumni board. He's another character of that vintage. But my man Rowdy Joe Randanella with his big conversion van with the NJ Devils logo on the back was the coolest. I still keep in touch with him and he's getting married next fall. Who knew a thread about Sebastian would create such a response? ;D
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Post by SCAR on Dec 19, 2005 23:36:53 GMT -5
Smoothie and I saw Cooper Taylor at homecoming this year! We didn't talk to him because he was engaged in a conversation with, you guessed it Cooper Taylor!
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Post by PAmedic on Dec 19, 2005 23:46:15 GMT -5
ah good ol Cooper. he ranked right up there w/ Homer Blass.
and I completely forgot about SAGA until you guys brought it up.
that and the wrestling room above the gym. (Shilling, whatever you guys call it now)
but you can never take the ravine away from us, and the bus rides to City Stadium on Saturdays.
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