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Post by Guest on Jun 8, 2005 11:15:32 GMT -5
I know it's hard to say right now. But if you had to pick a starting lineup, how would you project it.
Should be interesting.
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Post by SCAR on Jun 8, 2005 14:58:42 GMT -5
Way too soon to speculate. Blair is a shoe in at 2 but maybe the point because he wants to show that he can do it if he plans on playing at the next level. Risher at the point but Justin Holland is a quick athletic type of guard that can score and get other people shots but he will be a frosh. There are 2 new players (Juco transfers) and Anthony Smith (Frosh) to compete for the starting 3 spot plus Doug Stewart. The 4 and 5 are totally up for grabs especially if Rashaad ends up transfering. I hope to see Russell Monroe play a lot this season. Anyone that watches the Flames Television Network knows I am a huge fan. Elijah Miller has a way to go academically before we can count on his services next season. At the risk of getting sportscritic05 riled up, I think the Men's team will struggle next season. Winthrop is going to be really good again next season.
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Post by Sly Fox on Jun 8, 2005 18:49:56 GMT -5
I was waiting on you to reply, Scar. With all of the turnover on our squad (which may or may not be over) I didn't dare speculate.
As for Elijah, I really hope he keeps himself in the game. Its really a shame Stephon is gone because Elijah's HS & UH teammate Cedric Hensley is reportedly looking to transfer and it would've been great to bring him over to LU. He would be a major impact player in the Big South (as he could be in C-USA if he could ever keep focused). BTW, Stephon has already dipped into hsi Houston roots landing talent for Palm Beach Atlantic. I have a feeling he's going to be very successful in his new endeavor. We're really going to miss him.
PS - Come on, Rashad, stick around. We love you, man.
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Post by thesportscritic on Jun 8, 2005 21:21:00 GMT -5
Way too soon to speculate. Blair is a shoe in at 2 but maybe the point because he wants to show that he can do it if he plans on playing at the next level. Risher at the point but Justin Holland is a quick athletic type of guard that can score and get other people shots but he will be a frosh. There are 2 new players (Juco transfers) and Anthony Smith (Frosh) to compete for the starting 3 spot plus Doug Stewart. The 4 and 5 are totally up for grabs especially if Rashaad ends up transfering. I hope to see Russell Monroe play a lot this season. Anyone that watches the Flames Television Network knows I am a huge fan. Elijah Miller has a way to go academically before we can count on his services next season. At the risk of getting sportscritic05 riled up, I think the Men's team will struggle next season. Winthrop is going to be really good again next season. Oh SCAR I really can't wait to meet you. I could be the next Stephen A. Smith of Liberty sports. A critic that will be very hard to please. I think it is funny that you think that I get riled up. Nice that you think of me in that way. I just love debating about sports, so I guess I could get fired up about some topics. With Dees gone for the better I think, he will flourish at Louisana Lafeyette. He was the best on the team. He was the only one for the most part that played consistently. While the rest of them maybe with the exception of Blair and one or two others funked it up this year. The youth and immaturity of the players on the court showed this year. I think you know who will be the bright spot next year so support them more next season. I am going to enjoy this forum for a long time. |
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Post by LUconnn on Jun 9, 2005 7:20:12 GMT -5
I could be the next Stephen A. Smith of Liberty sports. I sure hope not, he's an absolute joke. He's a good example of "just because you say something in a conclusive way, doesn't make what you just said true". As for next year. I believe that we will be a middle of the pack team. But given the chance, Russell Munroe will shine and be everybody's hero. We'll all be chanting "butternut" and Dunton will hire an assistant with homeschooling contacts. |
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Post by Formerplayer on Jun 9, 2005 8:52:35 GMT -5
Evan Risher will play a major role for LU next year. Already he's a more complete point guard than Woodson was. Scar, I don't think Rashad is leaving at least as of last week never know with these guys. I agree the mens team will struggle along with the womens team next year. I'm very high on Russell as well I love that kids upside.
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Post by Sly Fox on Jun 9, 2005 9:22:51 GMT -5
We could sure use Rashad next year considering all the changes.
LUconn - You still haven't figured out how to get logged back in? Come on, brother. I have to admit I am VERY tired of SAS's act as well. He rarely brings anything of substance.
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Post by LUconn on Jun 9, 2005 9:31:00 GMT -5
I just got it. Refer to my thread in the off topic forum.
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Post by SCAR on Jun 9, 2005 9:44:01 GMT -5
First things first. Sportscritic05 don't be like Stephen A. He is a guy that lives to make people mad. You do have one thing in common though, and that is the ability to ignite a conversation which is really good. We appreciate your enthusiasm. We will meet soon I am sure...Former Player, I have to disagree with you about Risher being better than Woodson right now. I think you said more complete. There are still a lot of things Brian did that Rish will never do because he just isn't that athletic. That being said, Risher is as sound a player as I have seen in terms of understanding and putting a premium on ball possession. John Chaney would love him at Temple. He will see next year as his chance to be a leader and that mentality will make him a better player on the court. As you know that mental game is crucial....Of course Steph is going to get it done with Houston players and Texas in general. The talent pool is deep and he is a great recruiter. He will steal a few just like Liberty has overr the years. Caldwell, Jackson, White etc. had major options but chose Liberty. Steph doesn't get credit for those 3 in particular but I just used those names to show that Texas players are willing to go to a smaller school for the right situation....LUConn welcome back. We missed you and the picture of Larry Blair. I should scan my dunk from ESPN back in 1990 and use that as my picture (you knew I had to bring up my sportscenter moment right?)....Monroe is the real deal period. FormerPlayer can vouch for how good this kid will be. I hope he gets more playing time next year. He should start. I would run my whole offense through him but he still has to get stronger. I hope Elijah can make it academically. Sportscritc I will continue to support the Lady Flames, don't worry.
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Post by thesportscritic on Jun 9, 2005 10:34:17 GMT -5
I could be the next Stephen A. Smith of Liberty sports. I sure hope not, he's an absolute joke. He's a good example of "just because you say something in a conclusive way, doesn't make what you just said true". As for next year. I believe that we will be a middle of the pack team. But given the chance, Russell Munroe will shine and be everybody's hero. We'll all be chanting "butternut" and Dunton will hire an assistant with homeschooling contacts. I wasn't talking about the men's basketball team. They will finish fourth or fifth place this year coming up if you are asking for predictions. The team is going to still be very young and somewhat inexperienced next year. We will see what happens. I believe Stephen tells it like it is so I will tell it like it is. |
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Post by thesportscritic on Jun 9, 2005 10:38:27 GMT -5
Evan Risher will play a major role for LU next year. Already he's a more complete point guard than Woodson was. Scar, I don't think Rashad is leaving at least as of last week never know with these guys. I agree the mens team will struggle along with the womens team next year. I'm very high on Russell as well I love that kids upside. The women's team I believe will be motivated for next year. Can't wait to see what they bring to the table. If you think we will struggle because Katie who is 6 feet 8 inches, they have won the big south without height!!! |
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Post by thesportscritic on Jun 9, 2005 10:42:10 GMT -5
First things first. Sportscritic05 don't be like Stephen A. He is a guy that lives to make people mad. You do have one thing in common though, and that is the ability to ignite a conversation which is really good. We appreciate your enthusiasm. We will meet soon I am sure...Former Player, I have to disagree with you about Risher being better than Woodson right now. I think you said more complete. There are still a lot of things Brian did that Rish will never do because he just isn't that athletic. That being said, Risher is as sound a player as I have seen in terms of understanding and putting a premium on ball possession. John Chaney would love him at Temple. He will see next year as his chance to be a leader and that mentality will make him a better player on the court. As you know that mental game is crucial....Of course Steph is going to get it done with Houston players and Texas in general. The talent pool is deep and he is a great recruiter. He will steal a few just like Liberty has overr the years. Caldwell, Jackson, White etc. had major options but chose Liberty. Steph doesn't get credit for those 3 in particular but I just used those names to show that Texas players are willing to go to a smaller school for the right situation....LUConn welcome back. We missed you and the picture of Larry Blair. I should scan my dunk from ESPN back in 1990 and use that as my picture (you knew I had to bring up my sportscenter moment right?)....Monroe is the real deal period. FormerPlayer can vouch for how good this kid will be. I hope he gets more playing time next year. He should start. I would run my whole offense through him but he still has to get stronger. I hope Elijah can make it academically. Sportscritc I will continue to support the Lady Flames, don't worry. Thanks for the compliment and hopefully I will see you at the majority of the games this year coming up. The reason I like Smith is because I believe that he tells it like it is in my opinion. But don't worry I will never make you mad SCAR. |
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Post by SCAR on Jun 9, 2005 10:56:43 GMT -5
Actually it takes a lot to make me mad. Stephen A does not make me mad. Being from Philly I have been aware of Stephen A for many years as he was a writer with the Daily News. He also played his college ball with my old high school teammate Monte' Ross. They went to Winston Salem State together and played for BigHouse Gaines. Monte' is actually an assistant coach for St. Joes so it was hard to root against them in the Liberty game last year. I hope you will see me at all the games for Men's and women's because I would love to call them all. Sly can tell you how fun it is to call a live event. I was watching some of the DVD's this weekend with Woodson. We watched the High Point game. What fun that was. I forgot that our crowd rushed the court. Attendance needs to improve drastically for men and women's games next year. Falwell said they expect 9000 kids on campus next year and 10,000 the following!
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Post by thesportscritic on Jun 9, 2005 11:05:03 GMT -5
Actually it takes a lot to make me mad. Stephen A does not make me mad. Being from Philly I have been aware of Stephen A for many years as he was a writer with the Daily News. He also played his college ball with my old high school teammate Monte' Ross. They went to Winston Salem State together and played for BigHouse Gaines. Monte' is actually an assistant coach for St. Joes so it was hard to root against them in the Liberty game last year. I hope you will see me at all the games for Men's and women's because I would love to call them all. Sly can tell you how fun it is to call a live event. I was watching some of the DVD's this weekend with Woodson. We watched the High Point game. What fun that was. I forgot that our crowd rushed the court. Attendance needs to improve drastically for men and women's games next year. Falwell said they expect 9000 kids on campus next year and 10,000 the following! Do you mean 9000 kids for the upcoming year for the 05-06 year? The attendance I agree needs to improve on both sides. I believe that the Vines Center is the best place to be but the students and the community need to make it that way. I love the Vines Center especially when the place is loud. |
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Post by SCAR on Jun 9, 2005 11:13:19 GMT -5
Yes. 9000 for the fall of 05-06. I have not had my meeting with the new AD yet but I would imagine he will put an emphasis on getting attendance up. The community needs to take ownership with LU but there needs to be some bridging. The community sees Liberty and Thomas Road baptist as a separate entity than Lynchburg it seems. They support VA Tech and UVA even though they have a division 1 program in their back yard. I was picking up food one day last year and they got the order wrong. I said that it was ok because it was really loud in the Vines Center when I ordered. The lady asked me what the Vines Center was! That speaks volumes about how disconnected the community is from Liberty. Also the black community is another un-tapped market. I won't go into possible reasons but that is another group that needs to be brought in.
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Post by Sly Fox on Jun 9, 2005 11:26:00 GMT -5
I hadn't heard they were going to push the total to 9000 this fall. That's opposed to what they were telling us the last year or so that they were going to start getting tougher on entrance standards. Oh well. We went through a similar growth spurt back int he day. When I was a freshman in the fal of '85, we had a freshman class of 2500+. There were just 2500 students total on campus the previous spring. Perhaps Jerry wants to reclaim "the fastest growing university in America" claim.
As for the black community in Lynchburg, I know back when I was in town a few friends of mine & I used to go to some of the predominantly African-American churches in town. And they were always stunned that white kids from Liberty would want to go into their churches. We did it primarily because we loved experiencing the cultural diversity with brother Christians. Frankly, I found their reaction disappointing. Apparently, the black church's distrust of Jerry runs back several generations in the town. It didn't help that Jerry was supporting the Apartheid government in South Africa at the time. It took several years to tend those wounds.
What all this has to do with the projected lineup, I have no idea. But I agree wholeheartedly that efforts need to be improved toward building bridges with people in Lynchburg. Where are those Prototype guys when you need them?
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Post by insider on Jun 9, 2005 11:38:12 GMT -5
;DLiberty just signed two Juco player out of Allegany college of Maryland, 6'6 Eric Bigby and 6'9 Jeramy Eck. Eric's a very athletic kid and jeramy is a big kid, banger. Both are good and have a lot of potential.
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Post by thesportscritic on Jun 9, 2005 12:23:31 GMT -5
;DLiberty just signed two Juco player out of Allegany college of Maryland, 6'6 Eric Bigby and 6'9 Jeramy Eck. Eric's a very athletic kid and jeramy is a big kid, banger. Both are good and have a lot of potential. Insider Where did you get this information? I just checked the website libertyflames.com and I saw no such thing. |
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Post by LUconn on Jun 9, 2005 12:28:23 GMT -5
The insider doesn't rely on such sources as libertyflames.com my friend!
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Post by thesportscritic on Jun 9, 2005 12:31:45 GMT -5
The insider doesn't rely on such sources as libertyflames.com my friend! Well I will do my own research myself then. It should be up there on the site if they really signed these players. |
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Post by PAmedic on Jun 9, 2005 13:03:35 GMT -5
SCAR- I wish the admin would get you more involved in PR- w/ your heavy sports background and "street cred" w/ the kids on campus you could do a lot of good to promote LU. And w/ your TV exposure- probably a lot in town and regionally. if you're into that kinda thing.
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Post by PAmedic on Jun 9, 2005 13:07:31 GMT -5
and SC05 you will be amazed at the stuff the guys on this board dig up. The LAST place you will find out about most info is on libertyflames.com. Insider, SCAR, formerplayer and HMO are good for dredging up info and have proven reliable in the past (Coach Green staying, etc).
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Post by SCAR on Jun 9, 2005 17:00:01 GMT -5
SCO5, I like that as short hand PAMedic. Anyway, the insider calls himself the insider for a reason. He is absolutely correct about the signings. I met Alexis Sherard (new assistant coach) this weekend when I was in Lynchburg and I think he told me about those guys. I wasn't sure if they had signed though. The Libertyflames.com is late with everything. We were talking about Dees months before they put it on the website. The other swing player Damien Hubbard is a good player too. He has a friend named Davon Deans that is the real deal. Davon is the step son of one of my boys in Northern VA and with Hubbard coming to Liberty Davon could be right behind him. Davon had some real personal issues and has gone to a lot of different prep schools. He will be like 21 or 22 next year and if he comes in a a Frosh could do big things. I have some influence in his life for sure and if I am around I would love to get him. When he was in high school he was on Maryland's A list as a recruit. He is ACC material. My friend tells me Hubbard and Davon are similar and he couldn't believe LU got Hubbard. It looks like we are reloading....As for LU and PR I would love to do it and have been talking with Liberty for almost 2 years but they don't see the value in it yet. I am glad you guys recognize my influence :-). That is good enough for me.
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Post by PAmedic on Jun 9, 2005 21:34:22 GMT -5
SCAR: Tell 'em you'll do it for less than 100K/yr, whatta bargain right? say- 75. that oughta enable you to pay the bills, and I'm sure Mr Williams can afford it.
and I thought "SCO5" was good too- sorta STAR WARS like
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Post by thesportscritic on Jun 9, 2005 21:38:37 GMT -5
and SC05 you will be amazed at the stuff the guys on this board dig up. The LAST place you will find out about most info is on libertyflames.com. Insider, SCAR, formerplayer and HMO are good for dredging up info and have proven reliable in the past (Coach Green staying, etc). I'll remember that next time. It always seems that the website is not on time anyway. |
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Post by thesportscritic on Jun 9, 2005 21:39:49 GMT -5
SCO5, I like that as short hand PAMedic. Anyway, the insider calls himself the insider for a reason. He is absolutely correct about the signings. I met Alexis Sherard (new assistant coach) this weekend when I was in Lynchburg and I think he told me about those guys. I wasn't sure if they had signed though. The Libertyflames.com is late with everything. We were talking about Dees months before they put it on the website. The other swing player Damien Hubbard is a good player too. He has a friend named Davon Deans that is the real deal. Davon is the step son of one of my boys in Northern VA and with Hubbard coming to Liberty Davon could be right behind him. Davon had some real personal issues and has gone to a lot of different prep schools. He will be like 21 or 22 next year and if he comes in a a Frosh could do big things. I have some influence in his life for sure and if I am around I would love to get him. When he was in high school he was on Maryland's A list as a recruit. He is ACC material. My friend tells me Hubbard and Davon are similar and he couldn't believe LU got Hubbard. It looks like we are reloading....As for LU and PR I would love to do it and have been talking with Liberty for almost 2 years but they don't see the value in it yet. I am glad you guys recognize my influence :-). That is good enough for me. I believe you'll. You'll must go deeply undercover. The team needs all of the help they can get. Maybe I should run the website so it is up to date with any news that happens. |
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Post by Sly Fox on Jun 9, 2005 21:49:45 GMT -5
Echoing everybody else's comments, the official website is excruciatingly slow to post info. If it is posted on there, it is very old news to this board.
First I see PAmedic inflating's Scar dome with his talk and then I see Scar glossing his own connections. We may not be able to fit Scar's head into the board soon.
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Post by SCAR on Jun 10, 2005 0:07:31 GMT -5
Sly,
I will always play second fiddle to you and PAMedic on this board. But I do know a few people in the sports world. Ray Jones always jokes on me before games because there is always someone on the other team that I know from somewhere else. What can I say, I have been around a long time. You boys know I have no ego but I know you were joking Sly. Seriously though I would love to promote Liberty around Lynchburg first, then the state of VA and then nationally. It probably won't happen so I will just continue to call the games and just enjoy being around the game of basketball.
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Post by LUconn on Jun 10, 2005 7:33:39 GMT -5
As for LU and PR I would love to do it and have been talking with Liberty for almost 2 years but they don't see the value in it yet. That's the reason?! How can a school so big on marketing in general not see the value in promotions for the basketball program besides the little things they do now? I guess LU isn't as commited to the sports programs as I thought. When people outside the campus bubble don't know what the heck the vines center is, I'd say you have some PR problems. It's not like we have a Civic Center downtown. This town frustrates me to no end. |
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Post by WinthropEagleFan on Jun 10, 2005 7:57:06 GMT -5
The problem of 'town' involvement is present at nearly every school that's not named UNC, Va. Tech, Florida State, etc. Look across the Big South, SoCon, Atlantic Sun, etc. and you'll find similar problems. Winthrop's done the ticket giveaways, promotions with churches/schools, etc. and even still, it never seems like Rock Hill is behind the program. It took the best team in school history and Coach Marshall essentially begging in the papers and there was a decent rise in Rock Hill involvement with the team, but considering the reletively long-term success of the program since he's been there, it is still far from where it 'should' be.
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