LU Lacrosse Team ranked 24 th in the Nation.

[thelaxman]

The LU Lacrosse Team ranked 24th in the nation in Pre-season poll in the USL MDIA Division B. I wish the team well. They have had some humble beginnings and it is great to see them have some success. They are a young Team this year and look for some great things.

Thelaxman

1. University of San Diego
2. Utah Valley State College
3. Claremont College
4. Montana
5. Calvin College
6. St. John's (MN)
7. Harding University
8. Pacific Lutheran University
9. Pepperdine University
10. Indiana University of Pennsylvania
11. Appalachian State
12. Davidson College
13. Western Illinois
14. Montana State
15. Emory University
16. Creighton University
17. University of California, Irvine
18. University of St. Thomas
19. Southwestern University
20. Fort Lewis College
21. University of Puget Sound
22. Linfield College
23. Whitman College
24. Liberty University
25. Western Washington University

Others receiving votes (in alphabetical order): Dayton, Dordt College, Ferris State, Framingham State College, Grove City College, Maine-Orono, Northern Colorado, Occidental College, St. Louis University, Savannah College of Art & Design, South Dakota, Taylor University, Texas-Arlington, Trinity University.

[thelaxman]

The Division A rankings.

2006 MDIA Division A Preseason Top 25 Poll Presented by Shamrock Lacrosse
Merry Christmas y'all!

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE – Dec. 9, 2005

The preseason MDIA Division A Top 25 Poll Presented by Shamrock Lacrosse has last year’s national finalist Sonoma State at the top of the rankings. Shamrock Lacrosse, an innovative lacrosse company based in Hillside, New Jersey is the presenting sponsor for this year’s MDIA Division A and Division B Top 25 polls announced bimonthly on USLIA.com again this season.

Sophomore attackman Cito Williams (Offensive MVP of the '05 National Tournament) from San Diego hopes to lead the SSU Seawolves back to the national title game for the 2nd year in a row. Sonoma (2002 national champions) starts their '06 campaign at Cal-Berkeley on February 18th.

Colorado State returns to the rankings at the second slot after a brief absence. The Rams were ineligible to compete at the 2005 National Championship Tournament due to MDIA eligibility violations last Spring.

Two-time defending national champion UCSB fell to third in the preseason rankings after graduating several talented players including 1st team All-America midfielder Will Patton.

Michigan and BYU round out the Top five. Arizona State is the only new program in the Top 25 poll from last spring.

Lacrosse Magazine and Inside Lacrosse’s Face-off Yearbook are expected to preview the MDIA season in the upcoming January issues.

The first regular season MDIA Division A Top 25 Poll Presented by Shamrock Lacrosse will be announced on USLIA.com in late February.



2006 MDIA Division A Preseason Top 25 Poll
Presented by Shamrock Lacrosse
December 9, 2005

1. Sonoma State
2. Colorado State
3. Univ. of California, Santa Barbara
4. Michigan
5. Brigham Young University
6. Florida State
7. Oregon
8. Colorado
9. Univ. of California, San Diego
10. Virginia Tech
11. Oakland University
12. Utah
13. Lindenwood University
14. Georgia Tech
15. Arizona
16. Northeastern University
17. Chico State
18. Boston College
19. Cal Poly SLO
20. Michigan State
21. Minnesota-Duluth
22. Chapman University
23. Texas Tech
24. Arizona State
25. Minnesota

Others receiving votes (in alphabetical order): Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Missouri, New Hampshire, Pittsburgh, Simon Fraser University, Texas, Texas A&M.


In Division A Virginia Tech comes in at number 10. Atrain will be excited. For more info on the USL MDIA go to www.uslia.com .

It will take some time but New Mexico will be in that top 25 in Division A.

Division B is your small Colleges and Universities that do not have NCAA Div 1 Football but there are schools that play up because they can like Sonoma State or UCSB. Division A is all your big time Colleges and Universities that have NCAA Division 1 Football. There may come a time Liberty goes Division A or to the NCAA. It will be interesting to see what transpires.

All the best,

Thelaxman

[ATrain]

Thanks laxman, you're still in my prayers. Yes, I am excited VaTech is #10, but whenever LU plays them the Flames of my heart will be burning bright against the Hokie shadow.

[thelaxman]

This is the 2006 schedule. The game with Lynchburg College is with the Club Team at LC.

Good Luck LU Lacrosse!

Thelaxman

Liberty University SELC Lacrosse Schedule 2006




Feb. 18 (Sat) LYNCHBURG 1:00 p.m.

Feb. 26 (Sun.) @ App. State 3:00 p.m.

Mar. 5 (Sun.) SCAD 1:00 p.m.

Mar. 11 (Sat) GROVE CITY 1:00 p.m.

Mar. 13-19 Spring Break

Mar. 26 (Sun.) UNCC 1:00 p.m.

Mar. 31 (Fri.) @elon 7:00 p.m.

Apr. 8 (Sat.) DAVIDSON 2:00 p.m.

Apr. 11 (Tues) SVU 7:00 p.m.

Apr. 15 (Sat.) ECKERD 1:00 p.m.

All Home games should be at Williams Stadium. But with all the changes at LU I can not confirm that. They are home most of the season.

[PAmedic]

thanks for the update Coach- hope they purchase some goals by then

[bigsmooth]

thanks for the many updates about the team. i wish the team would keep their website up to date so we all can track them. can you send out the word to the boys. continued prayers for you coach!

[thelaxman]

I will say something to Kyle Mcquillan one of the Captains. I'm not sure why they don't update the website.

They may really surprise people this year. But my feeling is it is going to be a tough stretch. Elon is going to be out for us and we play them at Elon in North Carolina this year. We upset Elon last year and kicked them out of the top 10 rankings in the Country in 05. App. State is always a tough game in the Mountains of NC. In the 04 season we really were effected by the altitude. Davidson has a awesome Team this year and look for improvements from Southern Virginia and UNC Charlotte. Eckerd College is a small School from Florida that just joined the SELC but I have heard they are a very talented Team. Grove City has an up and coming program from PA. They only lost by 1 last year to Calvin College from Michigan that went to Nationals. Savannah Collage of Art and Design is one season from going Varsity and they are as good as some NCAA Div. 3 programs. You can check out info and track the LU Flames Lacrosse Team by clicking on the SELC page at www.selc.org . You also can click on to the League page at www.uslia.com .

Yes PAmedic I will be the repo man at the end of the 06 season to reclaim my property but they are welcome to use my Goals until they get new ones.

Go Flames Lax!

Thelaxman

[thelaxman]

Pre-season Poll for the SouthEastern Lacrosse Conference for Division A and B.

2006 SELC Preseason Polls
Florida State and Davidson are the preseason picks for the SouthEastern Lacrosse Conference.

2006 SELC DIVISION A PRESEASON POLL

RANK TEAM (1st place votes) - POINTS
1. Florida State (12) - 27 pts.
2. Virginia Tech (5) - 48 pts
3. Georgia Tech - 75 pts
4. Georgia (1) - 91 pts
5. Florida (1) - 93 pts
6. North Carolina State - 137 pts
7. Vanderbilt - 154 pts
8. Tennessee - 167 pts
9. Auburn - 174 pts
10. Central Florida - 181 pts
11. East Carolina - 201 pts
12. Wake Forest - 208 pts
13. Clemson - 223 pts
14. South Florida - 238 pts
15. South Carolina - 263 pts

2006 SELC DIVISION B PRESEASON POLL

RANK TEAM (1st place votes) - POINTS
1. Davidson (7) - 34 pts
2. Appalachian State (3) - 62 pts
3. Emory (2) - 92 pts
4. Savannah College of Art & Design (3) - 100 pts
5. (tie) Elon (1) - 105 pts
5. (tie) Liberty - 105 pts
7. North Carolina-Charlotte - 129 pts
8. Eckerd - 139 pts
9. The Citadel (1) - 141 pts
10. Furman (1) - 147 pts
11. Southern Virginia - 168 pts
12. Alabama - 174 pts


Thelaxman

* NOTE:
Alabama is in Division B because they are more of a developing program and can not compete in Division A.

[flamesfan710]

I just hope I get to do announcing for the lax team this season

[PAmedic]

can you re-phrase that please.

[flamesfan710]

Sorry PA...lol

I just hope I get to be the PA (public address) announcer for the lax team this season

[fsn32]

It was like a scene from Brokeback Mountain there for a second.

[Dude]

What does Gay Cowboys have to do with Lacrosse?

We are talking Lax here! There is nothing gay about the sport of Lacrosse.

[Sly Fox]

Lacrosse had nothing to do with the double-entendre.

[flamesfan710]

yeah...lemme fix the first one JUST to be sure...

[PAmedic]

thank you. Though I'm secure in my masculinity and all.

[flamesfan710]

Good to know...lol

Maybe if you come down to Lynchburg you may hear me in Williams Stadium

[fsn32]

With your edit, now my post seems out of place.

[JPR]

It would be nice to see the Flames Sports Network have Lacrosse games on TV. I was reading in a paper in New York that Syracuse signed a TV package with the local Television station. Also Johns Hopkins University signed some kind of local Television package for all their games in the Baltimore area.

Lacrosse is now growing faster then Soccer in America and it would be great to see Jerry carry the games on Sky Angel.

From looking at these Polls it looks like the Team is not far from being in the top ten in the Nation and winning a National Championship in Club Lacrosse. These are some exciting times for Club sports at LU with both Hockey and Lacrosse taking the lead on a National level.

[fsn32]

I would guess it is do-able... but expensive.

[thelaxman]

Fsn32,

It would be do-albe because the money you make would pay for the broadcast and would make a profit for the network. ESPN made money on the last two NCAA National Men's Lacrosse Championships in Philadelphia in 2005 and Baltimore in 2004. They had over 50,000 people at the game in Philly last year and 47,000 in Baltimore. The Television audience was as big as a major College Basketball game like Duke vs UNC. The College Sports network does the US MDIA National Championships every year and now is signing up to do some of the top Teams in Club Lacrosse from around the country like Florida, BYU, Michigan, Arizona, Cal Berkley, Stanford, Boston College and yes Atrain Virginia Tech. That is only Club Lacrosse. While JPR is right about Hopkins and Syracuse and I heard there may be something for Charlottesville with the University of Virginia Lacrosse program.

fsn32, you just need to do your research. JPR Guest is right Lax is the fastest growing sport in the USA and if we get behind our Lacrosse team it can only do great things for Liberty University.

# One note I know first hand because one of my best friends is the Head Lacrosse Coach at BYU. Is that BYU TV affiliated with Mormon Television does their Lacrosse games on the Mormon satellite from across all of North America. I'm telling you Guys Lacrosse can make tons of money but nobody listens to me.


Thelaxman

[thelaxman]

Fsn32:

There is a reason that Lacrosse draws more to Williams Stadium then Varsity Baseball draws crowds for Baseball games in the Spring. Do your research.

Go LU Lax!

Thelaxman

[Sly Fox]

We need to get a fiber drop to Williams Stadium. Period. There's no reason we shouldn't be televising everything over there just like Vines. We have the satellite time and we shopuld be capitalizing.

[SCAR]

Don't get me started on this whole TV issue but the truth is fsn32 is correct in a sense but so is Laxman. Right now it is expensive to do games on TV. It is cost prohibitive to show lacrosse, or even football in the state our team was in this year. The reason is because they don't sell the commercial time. ESPN and the other entities you guys mentioned have a multi million dollar budget and a force of advertising sales reps selling to ad execs at the major corporations and corporate sponsorship makes it a profitable venture as long as you have numbers and demographics to show who and how many are watching which as you all know drives the advertising prices. Right now Liberty pays to put the games on TV and does not make a profit. There is no one selling advertising (as far as I know) and the only commercials they show are Liberty generated stuff (I don't see the commercials when I am on but that is my understanding). thesportscritic, Elicoolbreeze and others may be able so shed some light on what they show during our timeouts but I am pretty sure they are not coke and burger king commercials. Sly is right about the fiber ops build out. Yet another thing LU must do if they want to be a major player in athletics. All the components are there. I would love to come on staff and start project managing things like this (as I said in my other post about money in the say it aint so thread) but so far LU has turned me down.

[The U]

Plus, I also think there is a difference between Syracuse, Johns Hopkins and Liberty lacrosse ... how somebody could think they are on the same level is ridiculous! You’re talking about two perennial national champions and a club team. Secondly, FTN would make as much money off of lacrosse as they do off of basketball and volleyball: NONE!

[fsn32]

thelaxman said:

Fsn32,

It would be do-albe because the money you make would pay for the broadcast and would make a profit for the network. ESPN made money on the last two NCAA National Men's Lacrosse Championships in Philadelphia in 2005 and Baltimore in 2004. They had over 50,000 people at the game in Philly last year and 47,000 in Baltimore. The Television audience was as big as a major College Basketball game like Duke vs UNC. The College Sports network does the US MDIA National Championships every year and now is signing up to do some of the top Teams in Club Lacrosse from around the country like Florida, BYU, Michigan, Arizona, Cal Berkley, Stanford, Boston College and yes Atrain Virginia Tech. That is only Club Lacrosse. While JPR is right about Hopkins and Syracuse and I heard there may be something for Charlottesville with the University of Virginia Lacrosse program.

fsn32, you just need to do your research. JPR Guest is right Lax is the fastest growing sport in the USA and if we get behind our Lacrosse team it can only do great things for Liberty University.

# One note I know first hand because one of my best friends is the Head Lacrosse Coach at BYU. Is that BYU TV affiliated with Mormon Television does their Lacrosse games on the Mormon satellite from across all of North America. I'm telling you Guys Lacrosse can make tons of money but nobody listens to me.


Thelaxman

Fsn32:

There is a reason that Lacrosse draws more to Williams Stadium then Varsity Baseball draws crowds for Baseball games in the Spring. Do your research.

Go LU Lax!

Thelaxman

What research? All I said was it would be do-able but expensive. Which is a true statement. It would cost somewhere around $10,000 per game or more. In my book that is expensive. I can't imagine the gate or any ads would come close to covering that. Comparing it to ESPN is Apples to Oranges... and unless it's Fiona, I don't like them Apples.

I'm not making any kind of comment about the state of lacrosse in the country. I like lacrosse... I watch it on TV on occasion when UVa makes a Championship run. I'm just saying that it would take someone with deep pockets to fund it being on TV.

As far as baseball... I wouldn't go hammering them too much. They don't have lights and you will never get a huge crowd with afternoon games, although they get a few hundred each day. I remember that there was a night game at City Stadium one time against UNC and there was a great crowd. So all things considered, they do fine.

It really isn't a "lacrosse" or "club" issue. It would be the same situation if we were talking about baseball, softball, soccer or tennis. You have to be able to justify the cost or have someone willing to foot the bill... a point researched.

[thelaxman]

I hear you on the cost. But I believe there would be a big enough audience and advertising for a Lacrosse event to make it worth the investment.

You make some good points.

Thelaxman

[thelaxman]

My question is why can BYU Television and Mormon TV carry the BYU Lacrosse Team all over North America on their satellite and around the world? Also BYU only has a Club Team like Liberty. But BYU is in the top 5 in the nation in the Division A. Liberty is also a ranked team. My real question is are the Mormons better then us or do they just have more money?

Thelaxman

[Sly Fox]

The LDS are willing to bankroll promotion of their school and its events using the tithes taken around the globe. We don't have the unending supply of cash that the Mormons possess.

[PittLU]

Sad thing is Mormanism has only been around for 150 so years. There are also no fractions of Mormanism like there are in the Evangelical spectrum. I dont know of any other BYUs, but there are Baylors, SMU's, TCU's, Wake Forest that all contend for their fractions money.