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Post by LUconn on Jan 18, 2005 13:23:45 GMT -5
In an attempt to be more LU friendly, I suggest that this board as a whole should refrain from discussing LU administration policies/rules/The Liberty way. As I'm sure we all know by now, they get pretty filter happy when they see a place for students or alumn to critisize them and vent on what they don't like about school policies. I think if we steered clear of this subject and stuck to sports or anything that isn't this, maybe they would think twice before blocking this site from campus.
Just a suggestion.
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Post by PittLU on Jan 18, 2005 13:40:42 GMT -5
LUconn - I promise that if anything negative is said then the administration filters the content. That goes for sports as well. Do you honestly think that anything with "Fire Karcher" would get play at LU? How about language such as "sucks".
I have to disagree about the content of the board. We are alumni and as much as I would like to see current students on the board - there arent any to our knowledge (at least no one that has spoken up as a current student). I honestly think if students were posting contrary things relating to the sports department, it would be caught and banned by the administration. Keeping this board free of "anything not pertaining to Liberty Sports" in the hope we get current students to weigh in on our discussions is wishful at best. Plus, why not have a place to discuss our alma matter in matters not necessarily always pertaining to sports? I think I speak for several poster when I say that the trip down memory lane about Gene's and TP incidents is a good time.
I do respect your opinion LUconn and if the rest of the board members feel the way you do, I will respect everyone's opinion and keep it to sports only.
I feel a poll coming on.........
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Post by LUconn on Jan 18, 2005 13:52:17 GMT -5
Well I agree, that it shouldn't be sports only. Especially since this the the "off topic" area. I don't think anybody at LU would mind students expressing their thoughts on sports, even if it was to fire a coach. But I do know for a fact that they disapprove of an outlet to trash on the Liberty Way. But this board may be blocked right now anyway. I'll see if I can get on campus to check. In which case we could have at it.
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Post by PittLU on Jan 18, 2005 13:54:27 GMT -5
Let us know what you find. In the meantime, lets put it to the members of this message board.
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Post by Sly Fox on Jan 18, 2005 18:34:35 GMT -5
We used to pass out fishwrap for player introductions way back in the day when Scar was on the floor as a player. So it hardly was a new tradition.
As we appear to be belaboring this rep count, I guyess I need to fess up. I probably had about 10 as a freshman and about 15 as a soph. I was off campus my junior year and the few months of my senior year so I never accumulaed anymore. For the record, nearly all the reps were our room not passing inspection or coming back to the dorm a couple of minutes past curfew. The offense for which I was threatened with expulsion resulted in no punishment. I have now come clean about LU criminal record. Frankly, my worst offenses were never discovered and I would just as soon keep it that way. As my classmates in dc Talk once crooned, "Some people have to learn the hard way ..."
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Post by jimflamesfan on Jan 18, 2005 21:19:49 GMT -5
LUPITT,
I was from Johnstown...The people I knew from that area at LU...Matt P., Jill H., Dean B., and a Tina D. from Bedford.
Recognize any names?
Jim K.
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Post by Sly Fox on Jan 18, 2005 23:08:50 GMT -5
By the way, Jim, UPJ was one of our big rivals back when I was in school. I don't remember the guy's name (perhaps Scar may recall) but they had a power forward who was Major program material running with them in those ugly uniforms in the Late '80s. But he was surrounded by subpar D2 talent.
What all this has to do with the Liberty Way is beyond me. In fact, if everyone feels it would be in the site's best interest to remove this thread from the board I would be for it. Everyone involved in this thread has silled their individual beans and it no longer carries any real meaning. But that's just my opinion and we all know how much that is worth ...
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Post by Students are Alive on Jan 19, 2005 0:33:39 GMT -5
speaking for my fellow classmates...the "Guests" of this board are guests, and not members for a reason...we are students, covering our tracks. It's a good site, although we dont always agree with you old hags...we like this site and keep it going. I know fo at least 5-8 students to daily read and post.
and let them block it....you guys dont know how easy it is to get around things these days. Go LU bball...hold home court!
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Post by Reps on Jan 19, 2005 0:46:06 GMT -5
2 years - 32 reps
that doesnt count all the ones i should have. last year besides the hey hey hey you suck chant..(which still quietly is heard) we used to have the # to the sideline telephone's for football. Smart ol' LU left the # taped to the phone, so for an entire season we used to call the other teams quarterback and give him a little piece of our mind. They have now gone wireless so that is all over. As for bball, we are said to be the harshest and toughest crowd in the conference...so although we aren't going all out Detriot fan style old schoolers....we still make it .....well bad for visitors.
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Post by PAmedic on Jan 19, 2005 6:09:46 GMT -5
old hags huh? actually, I've been called worse. And, by the way, an understanding RA only gave me 2 reps for shooting a home made airband rock video at 0300 to the song "Hot For Teacher". seemed like a good idea at the time, don't remember why. (SEE ALSO: rolling bottle rocket fights utilizing skateboards and the steel tubing from the bunkbeds. Funny til' my roomates bed caught on fire. ALSO: burning trash in the sink is NOT cool, even if you have no garbage pick up for a month-1988) PS: Van Halen was a group popular in the '80s.
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Post by Sly Fox on Jan 19, 2005 8:48:48 GMT -5
You guys don't have to explain to us "old hags" about clandestine operations. I'm glad to hear there is a growing knowledge of the site on campus. Word of mouth is the best advertising.
But let's not get to full of yourselves comparing yourselves to other Big South schools. Let's try to aim a little higher than those podunk outfits.
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Post by eddantes on Jan 19, 2005 10:03:25 GMT -5
Reps (the guest poster):::
Are you my younger brother? He said he did the exact same thing with the sideline phone.
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Post by SCAR on Jan 19, 2005 10:19:07 GMT -5
Sly Fox that player you referred to from UPJ was Tyrone Doleman. His brother played for the Minnesota Vikings as a lineman or linebacker and lead the league in Sacks. As far as reps, I was a ball player so my rep count is skewed a little to the low side but I was for the most part compliant with the Liberty way. Since I am not annonymous like most of you, I will not tell you any of the juicy stuff or in fact if there is any juicy stuff to speak of for that matter. All I will say is I got in trouble for Music but only when we had RA's in training. Television in the room was another offense but we liked staying up and watching old Star Trek reruns. Jim Kirk, Spock and the boys not the new stuff....As far as students posting, that is great. Spread the word. More importantly, get your friends out to the Vines Center. I can tell you from experience that when your classmates cheer you on and make you feel loved, you play a lot better, jump a little bit higher and it makes life a lot easier when you are wearing your home whites.
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Post by PAmedic on Jan 19, 2005 11:32:11 GMT -5
SCAR, the faithful rabble rousers of Dorm 12 were definitely w/ you on viewing the ORIGINAL Star Trek episodes. If memory serves, it was the last programming on before they shut the channel down overnite. (remember when that was common- no programming after 0100?)
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Post by SCAR on Jan 19, 2005 12:10:05 GMT -5
PAmedic,
you are right. Channel 13 was really the only channel that you could pick up clearly and they did sign off after Star Trek. Boy are we old!
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Post by Sly Fox on Jan 19, 2005 15:25:00 GMT -5
So that cat was Chris' little brother? I did not know that. But he definitely could ball.
As for the television, we must have had a better antenna because we could pick up channel 10 well enough to watch Letterman (this was Pre-Late how on CBS for you kids). But to be honest, we watched more cartoons than anything else. You Trekkies were to high brow for us Toonheads.
Of course all this was before my pastoral major roommate turned our TV into the Supervisor. That resulted in some of hte aforementioned reps.
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Post by SCAR on Jan 20, 2005 11:28:35 GMT -5
Yes Tyrone Doleman is Chris Doleman's brother and he never let you hear the end of it either. Sly I don't know if you remember the game we beat them in our gym back in 88 (wow that is a long time ago) when Doleman went for a game winning 3 pointer from half court but never got the shot off because I stole the ball! Scott Tolley of the News and Advance asked me why I would risk fouling him on a desperation shot like that and I made a flip comment about the ball being big and in my face so I had to steal it. The article said something out of context that I could not live down for a while. I was quoted as saying the ball looked like a "Big Juicy Orange" and the next day at practice someone put all the basketballs in a sack and placed it in my locker with a note that said, here is a bushel of big juicy oranges! Enjoy! I will never forget that.
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Post by Sly Fox on Jan 20, 2005 21:01:37 GMT -5
I actually do remember that. But its been a LONG time ago. Were you on the team the year we hosted 2nd-ranked UMBC and we won on that buzzer-beating three by Freddie Brown? That was probably my ultimate hoops highlight during my years on campus. We didn't rush the court much back in the day, but that shot was phenomenal. I have to admit, I missed your comment. I am shocked it was taken out of context by the local fishwrap.
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Post by SCAR on Jan 20, 2005 21:20:48 GMT -5
The comment was easy to miss but my teammates didn't miss it...It was Freddie Morgan. He was from Columbus Ohio and I pretty much owe my career to him. If he hadn't been academically ineligible and if Steve Farqhuar hadn't broken his foot and Jimmy Pierce hadn't gotten Mono, I would have never seen the court. I came back as a walk-on my sophmore year and the only guards we had were Bailey Alston, Stephon Leary (frosh) and myself. I was forced into the rotation but thank God I was ready and I never looked back. Fred Brown played with Georgetown. Also it was #2 Mount St. Mary's. One of their players is a coach at Georgia Tech, Cliff Warren. I still talk to him from time to time. He was 5-8 just like Fred Morgan and they guarded each other. That was a shot I will never forget. We should pull that out of the archives and show it during one of our games on FTN.
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Post by Sly Fox on Jan 20, 2005 22:21:00 GMT -5
OK, so my memory is cloudy but I'm glad somebody else remembers that shot. I think his 5'8" height may have been fudging just a bit. And that shot was with a hand in his face ... amazing! Yeah, it was Mt St. Marys now that you bring it back. Although I doubt anyone has that shot on tape. WSET rarely ever showed up and only long enough to get get a couple of buckets and roll. But it was pure hoops ecstasy for one fleeting moment.
Freddie was good friends with some of my C-Bus friends and academics weren't exactly first priority for him unfortunately. But he had incredible springs in his short legs. Its funny how life's disappointments for one player can be such a blessing to someone else.
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Post by PAmedic on Jan 20, 2005 22:56:56 GMT -5
I remember very few of the players, having too much fun just yelling like an idiot and throwing TP at the games, but Farquar does come to mind. Can't recall though- big blonde kid??? Also, one of my dormates "Kenny" was the younger brother of the "superstar" point guard back then ('88 I think). Don't remember his name either, but I do know they were from Georgia. Guess I'll have to retrieve the old yearbooks- I paid much more attention to Football back then though we were HORRIBLE!
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Post by SCAR on Jan 21, 2005 7:41:09 GMT -5
Sly, It is ok if memory doesn't serve you correctly. They say it is the first to go for us old guys. As far as the shot being on tape, well it is! LU use to use it for recruiting. I have seen it recently during the old ESPN game when the lights went out back in 90 (my senior year). Family Net (Flames Television Network, Liberty Channel) has it in the archives. When they move over to the Erricson building in a few months they are going to have a giant library full of all that old stuff and I for 1 can't wait to go back and take a look at it. That shot was amazing. Did you know Fred could dunk? Also he was the reason I learned how to really dribble. My first official practice as a frosh he took the ball from me like 8 times! Embarrasing yes but also inspirational. I worked on my handles so much that I ended up playing point at LU. Which was a good thing because with Alston at the 2, I would never have played the minutes I did that is for sure.
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Post by SCAR on Jan 21, 2005 7:49:17 GMT -5
PAmedic, I think I know your old roommate Kenny. There was a big brother named Kenny but there was Ken Phillips. His brother was a great point guard that should have come to Liberty but he was not signed and ended up at Appalachian St. His name was Kemp Phillips and ended up being all-Southern Conference a couple of times. LU passed on him because he was only like 5-9 and they already had Freddie Morgan....Steve Farquahar was from NJ and he had Jeremy Monceaux type high school numbers. He averaged 49 per game! Again that was before the 3 pointer. I played against him in high school and he had 53 against us. I remember when he signed at Liberty I said I wanted to go there too and play with and against him in practice. After his broken foot he was never the same player. Paul Nazigian (you may remember his imfamous Brother Mark) was another one of my teammates that I played against in high school. Actually middle school too. He went to The Christian Academy in Wilmington, DE. I am still friends with both of those guys but I have not heard from Farquhar in a while. Nax is working on his doctorate. If he posts He can call himself DEmedic
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Post by SCAR on Jan 21, 2005 7:53:00 GMT -5
Technically DEmedic would be incorrect because he is going for a doctorate in education but you still get my meaning...Also I misspelled NAZ. I wrote NAX. Sorry NAZ. BTW NAZ has been around the program as much as me and I need to get him on here to see his Division 1 best team. He coached on the 94 championship team and was on the staff with me in the mid 90's as well.
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Post by PAmedic on Jan 21, 2005 8:03:24 GMT -5
doesn't seem to fit the profile of the guy I knew- now its gonna drive me crazy 'til I remember his last name. I remember that obnoxious silver Pontiac TA w/ t-tops he drove, though. He drove all over in it while I owned a green '71 Nova w/ a smashed in rear-end. NICE. wonder why he got 10x the babes I did.
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Post by PAmedic on Jan 21, 2005 8:06:10 GMT -5
for you young hags, that is a Trans-Am. a cool car, like the CAMARO, that us old hags fixed up w/ Cragars, fuzzy dice and a power booster w/ LED lights - what you would now call "pimping" rides. SEE ALSO: Ford Granada and Chevy Nova SS
*EDIT* just re-read this and I am now going to find rope to hang myself- had no idea we were all such dorks
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Post by Sly Fox on Jan 21, 2005 8:55:44 GMT -5
I remember both Steve & Naz. Steve was a victim of his high school success and inevitable expectations. People expected him to light it up the moment he stepped on campus at LU. While he proved a serviceable shooter, he could never live up to the hype. He seemed like a nice guy to me. We had a few general ed classes together as freshman.
As for Naz, he seemed to be on the other end of the spectrum. He was a fan favorite for being scrappy.
Freddie was dunking at his height in high school. He had no trouble getting above the rim. But his hands were so small he had trouble gripping the ball to send one down in a game. But he could flat out soar.
And whatever happened to Eduardo? Back to Brazil?
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Post by SCAR on Jan 21, 2005 10:42:44 GMT -5
Sly,
I forget. Are you from Ohio? Eduardo Soldesi, my old roomate my frosh year. He could elbow you in the noze just walking down the hall. He broke Steve's nose I think in practice! Naz was a fan favorite and a team favorite as well. We begged for him to get playing time but it was not until late his senior year that he saw significant minutes. Too bad too because we started winning with him in the lineup....Your are right about Farqhar having to live up to the hype. Too much pressure for sure. He was a good guy though. Monceaux kind of went through the same thing because of the 6300 points he scored in high school.
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Post by V88 on Jan 21, 2005 11:09:46 GMT -5
The one thing I remember is Farqhar always diving on the floor for the ball. He may not have scored the points people thought he would but I appreciated his hustle. Scar, I forget, were you on the team when they played in the Schilling Center? I think the Vines is great and it's a different era now but some of the best games at Liberty were in the old facility. (even the pre D-1 days)Because the crowd was so packed in the place it really was a "furnace". Before the recent renovations to Schillings, I thought it would have been fun to have a "retro night" and play a game in the old Schill.
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Post by Sly Fox on Jan 21, 2005 13:17:22 GMT -5
It wasn't called Schilling back when Scar and I were on campus. But yeah, we are seriously old school (older by the day as evidenced by the pain I felt this morning after running the floor with 18-year-olds at the Y yesterday). It was a blast at home games due to the tight seating. It was always loud and hot. But it was clearly too small for today's purposes.
I am indeed originally from Ohio, Scar. But I have been in Texas now for 15 years. So I am now essentially a Texan. I live in Stephon's old stomping grounds in Houston close to the school he was coaching before returning to LU.
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