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Post by Stevev on Sept 24, 2005 18:34:46 GMT -5
Who gave this guy a 5 year contract anyway? I thought that Kim Graham made the comment about progress being made. Where does Park all fit in that decision? I thought the decision was made before he came on the scene.
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Post by thesportscritic on Sept 24, 2005 18:35:07 GMT -5
No Rocco is still at LCA coaching the Football team. The team is so far undefeated with average margin of victories of 50 points. They have a good running and passing game. Definitely an exciting team to watch. I actually work at all of the home games LCA has at Williams Stadium. LCA has some big test on the road and at home the next three weeks but it should be fun to watch. I believe Rocco left LU because of Karcher.
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Post by angry on Sept 24, 2005 18:39:32 GMT -5
why not get rid of this guy? Do you think they will?
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Post by jimflamesfan on Sept 24, 2005 19:54:06 GMT -5
So that could be the answer...Hire Rocco as the next LU coach at the end of the year...then find a new coach for LCA.
I belive Rocco was the QBs coach under rutigliano, and he came from Penn State, I think.
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Post by Sly Fox on Sept 24, 2005 20:02:31 GMT -5
While all of the postulating is interesting, I believe the administration could've made that move this past winter. Instead, they chose to offer a 5-year contract extension to Karcher. That tells you loads on several scales.
It seems this is deja vu over discussion on this board last year at this point. But the team won some close games over bad opponents down the stretch and Karcher was rewarded for his "winning"season. If the team can rally and beat some bad Big South teams (as well as Towson & Norfolk St.) then I don't see the administration making any moves.
Unlike others on this board, I feel fairly confident that there were reasonable buyouts written into Karcher's contract extension. Karcher was negotiating from a position of weakness and they certainly wouldn't have given him 5 years without some protection of their own. I have a feeling that feelers are already being put back out to see what options make exist after the season. In the meantime, let's all hope Karcher & his staff can bail enough water to right the ship somewhat.
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Post by dale on Sept 25, 2005 8:15:46 GMT -5
I would think that if LU can beat the BSC teams and a couple of others, Karcher will stay. Something has to be done about recruiting and scheduling. You have to have talent to win. Scheduling 3 games like these past 3 back-to-back is insane. LU is not there yet and this type of schedule is discouraging to the fans as well the players. You don't build your reputation by getting slaughtered every week by teams out of your league but you have to play a few of these teams over the course of a season to build the program but you don't have to play them back to back.
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Post by Mike Brown on Sept 25, 2005 9:09:07 GMT -5
I heard Karcher's last job was as an Arabian horse show judge.
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Post by ann on Sept 25, 2005 9:14:07 GMT -5
Karcher is going to do what at QB position next week? Any word yet..
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Post by ann on Sept 25, 2005 9:19:43 GMT -5
Is Karcher affiliated with the power washing company
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Post by PAmedic on Sept 25, 2005 10:27:50 GMT -5
Unlike others on this board, I feel fairly confident that there were reasonable buyouts written into Karcher's contract extension. Karcher was negotiating from a position of weakness and they certainly wouldn't have given him 5 years without some protection of their own. I have a feeling that feelers are already being put back out to see what options make exist after the season. In the meantime, let's all hope Karcher & his staff can bail enough water to right the ship somewhat. PRINT THIS, I completely agree w/ SLY here. there are buyout options in ALL contracts at this level- WAY too much money invested in D1 sports to allow a shipwreck to continue. Where the trigger is, who knows- but LU WILL pull it at SOME point. If we don't run the table in the BSOUTH (will NEVER happen) Coach K is gone, but after the season.
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Post by PAmedic on Sept 25, 2005 10:28:38 GMT -5
Is Karcher affiliated with the power washing company thats funny. I didn't know WHAT you were talking about until I looked at the top of my browser and saw the advert!
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Post by ann on Sept 25, 2005 11:18:06 GMT -5
Maybe his buy out would not matter if he is affiliated.. That was tooooo funny.. Glad you got it, you are a quick guy.. I hope you come take care of me if I am in an emergency..
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Post by Chris Lang on Sept 25, 2005 11:30:23 GMT -5
Just an FYI on the quarterbacks: He hinted he's leaning toward stashing Farrel on the bench for the rest of the season and splitting time between the freshmen the rest of the year.
He says Terrell doesn't throw the ball all that well ... and he threw a really ugly over the middle ball (maybe Yao could have caught it, if he was starting on a trampoline). But at some point, if he's going to be the quarterback, you have to TEACH him to make that throw. That's part of coaching.
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Post by jimflamesfan on Sept 25, 2005 12:24:51 GMT -5
It is sort of interesting that our offense does seem to do best with Farell in, and the passing game wasn't as much as a problem as no rushing and bad defense.
So then the QB shuffle. At this point, though, the season is over, so play the young guys.
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Post by dale on Sept 25, 2005 13:50:57 GMT -5
From the stands Farell was the better QB yesterday. Terrell may be the best offensive player - line him up at TB or WR until he learns how to throw.
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Post by dale on Sept 25, 2005 13:57:08 GMT -5
Fast fact: If and when Karcher loses his next game (hello, W&M), he will move into sole possession of second place on Liberty's all-time career losses column, surpassing former skipper Tom Dowling. I played the last three years of the Tom Dowling era and the first of the Morgan Hout era. I have not closely followed LU sports for all of the last 20+ years but it is disappointing to see that apparently the program has not made a lot of progress. There is a stadium on campus and they don't practice on Treasure Island but they are not very competitive with quality D2 teams.
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Post by dale on Sept 25, 2005 13:58:22 GMT -5
Goofed above, should have said D2A not D2.
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Post by Sly Fox on Sept 25, 2005 14:11:36 GMT -5
Its actually I-AA, but we get the point.
There is no one associated with the school who is pleased with the current state of the football program.
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Post by HarrisburgFlame on Sept 25, 2005 20:49:41 GMT -5
I was traveling this weekend and didn't listen to the game but in my humble opinion the players have mailed it in on Karcher's program. I have seen it before. Once the kids stop believing in the system they go through the motions and believe me - in spite of what Coach K said about losing the team - you get beat 3 straight weeks by a score of 157-0 - somebody quit.
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Post by lufbfan3 on Sept 26, 2005 0:02:36 GMT -5
Rocco was at LU under Karcher until 2 or 3 years ago, and I also was referring to the rumor that he left because Karcher was there. I think it's more fact then rumor.
I am also with the group who believes that stipulations most definitely were made in Karcher's contract to keep him from reaping full benefits of this extension were he to say, getting slaughtered 3 games in a row... but I think he's definitely going down with his ship. I'd say that unless he has victories from here on out-he's canned. I'm even going to go as far as to say-I feel like people are threatening it as we type. I'd say Karcher's plan of action should NOT include ticking the players off-because he's really at that very thin line right before your entire team says FORGET IT. I don't believe he should get to stay, period. If I were him, I'd quit on my own and leave with some dignity--he's failed at his job-I'd rather admit it and take what little chance I had at a 1-aa job somewhere and move on. That's just me--obviously, he doesn't do the obvious thing...
Tired of losing, tired of discouraged players working their butts off for nothing--it's definitely PAST time for a change.
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Post by PAmedic on Sept 26, 2005 7:30:58 GMT -5
...in my humble opinion the players have mailed it in on Karcher's program... - you get beat 3 straight weeks by a score of 157-0 - somebody quit. EXCELLENT POINT H'BURG. I hope the young guns (Terrell, Smith, Greiser, etc) don't pick up bad habits, lose faith or outright bail on us after this year.
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Post by grm on Sept 26, 2005 8:55:41 GMT -5
Good and sound points. Unless we're playing USC every weekend, those are tough point spreads. In hockey, if you get down 5-0, you almost automatically change goalies.
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Post by LUconn on Sept 26, 2005 9:01:13 GMT -5
I thought we'd be pretty bad this year just due to inexperience. But this is beyond my expectations. I'm not upset that we suck this year, but this season is making me very angry that we sucked last year. We apparently had a great team last year that we may not see for another 2 or 3 years. How did he get that extention with that job he did last year? If we hadn't started out so poorly, who knows how far we could've gone.
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Post by flameshaw on Sept 26, 2005 9:03:36 GMT -5
I would think that if LU can beat the BSC teams and a couple of others, Karcher will stay. Something has to be done about recruiting and scheduling. You have to have talent to win. Scheduling 3 games like these past 3 back-to-back is insane. LU is not there yet and this type of schedule is discouraging to the fans as well the players. You don't build your reputation by getting slaughtered every week by teams out of your league but you have to play a few of these teams over the course of a season to build the program but you don't have to play them back to back. Dale, This schedule would not be that bad based on the talent level that we have had in the past. We have played and beat schools like this before ie. Hofstra, Boise St., Central Florida, Troy St., etc. even a D1 school, E or W Michigan. The problem is, like many have already expressed, our talent level has regressed significantly over the last several years. Time for a change.
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Post by Stevev on Sept 26, 2005 12:41:56 GMT -5
I remember when we beat the Central Florida' and the Troy State's of the world. Not all the time, of course, but occasionally and when we lost at least we were competitive to a certain extent. This year's schedule is the weakest we had in quit some time.
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