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Post by LU Fan on Apr 27, 2005 1:32:27 GMT -5
I know you OLD HAGS arent big on the NBA....but they have been somewhat exciting, we kept talking about the playoffs under the Farewell Reggie page, so i thought we might start a new forum.
Houston steals 2 in Dallas...very suprising...and did anyone see TMAC dunk 7'6" Shawn Bradley? He needs to retire after that.
Sorry Scar but your sixers are struggling, think they will grab 2 at home?
My Pacers stole one in Boston....hopefully we can hold home court now...Reggie with a beautiful 28 in game 2.
NO suprises with the Heat, and Denver stole one in SA...can they do it again?
Comments are welcomed...
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Post by Sly Fox on Apr 27, 2005 8:03:57 GMT -5
This old hag covers the Rockets on an everyday basis and still has some connections with the Spurs.
I'm not quite sure why everyone seems so shocked that Rockets are handling the Mavs so easily. Perhaps it is because we have no one but our wreckless ball of energy Ryan Bowen in the 4-hole to check Dirk. If we still had Juwan in our lineup, I feel we'd be ready to take whole shebang. Without him, anyone with a real frontcourt (sorry, Dampier & Van Horn don't count) will give the Rockets some trouble if Yao can't stay out of foul trouble.
That said, T-Mac finally is playing on a team with a real supporting cast and he is thriving. Yao is finally feeling comfortable in the postseason and realizing that nobody outside of Shaq & Tim can keep him in check.
As for the East, its been pretty boring. 'Zo's performane last night was surpising similar to what we get out of d**embe every 4th or 5th ballgame. If Shaq can get stronger healthwise, there's no one in the east who can stop them in a 7-game series.
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Post by SCAR on Apr 27, 2005 8:36:33 GMT -5
The Rockets are surprising because they won the 1st 2 games on the road. That is rare even in the first round. Dallas is a good team with an owner that spends a lot of money in pursuit of a championship that they have yet to come close to. A first round knockout would be a disaster. Avery Johnson is preaching Defense which has been absent in Dallas for a long time but they have a large hole to dig themselves out of now...The East is boring to me too. I have only watched a few minutes of all the games east and west and it does not have the same feel to me that it once did. I used to live for the NBA playoffs. My Sixers are over-matched plain and simple. Detroit can beat Miami just like they beat the Lakers last year. I am not saying they will I am just saying they can.
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Post by SCAR on Apr 27, 2005 8:41:24 GMT -5
Sly if I am hired to be a media relations/marketer at LU You will be one of the 1st guys I "profile" for next season. I have the idea of catching up with all of the successful alumni particularly in the sports and entertainment fields and do a feature on them to be shown during halftime of the TV games and also on Live from Liberty. It is high time that this is done. I don't know if I can make it happen but I hope to. Do you guys know Karl Hess? He is the all-time leading scorer in LU History (maybe 2nd since Alston but I can't remember now). Well he is one of the top college officials in basketball today. He has done 100's of ACC games and is very popular. He would be another guy to do a story on. Also the obvious ones like Sid Bream, Eric Green, Sam Gado, Katie Feenstra etc.
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Post by LUconn on Apr 27, 2005 9:27:07 GMT -5
Woah! I did not know Karl Hess played at LU.
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Post by SCAR on Apr 27, 2005 10:11:11 GMT -5
He is all over the record books in LU. He was the man back before Division 1. That is why he was not on my all Liberty team (back in DEC I think I posted a thread on Men's basketball). He scored over 2000 points! You should see those pictures they run in the media guide. I get teased about my pictures in the guide but I look and Hess and feel a whole lot better about the "coverage" I had with our shorts. I was at the end of the short shorts era. I just missed the FAB 5 long shorts by a couple of years.
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Post by GOAT on Apr 27, 2005 10:18:20 GMT -5
Good thing head bands weren't very popular when you played. You would have invented the elastic hoola hoop!
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Post by GOAT on Apr 27, 2005 10:21:34 GMT -5
The Mavericks are really missing the absence of Steve (MVP) Nash. Finley and Nowitzki are having to work alot harder for there buckets because they don't have a true set up man. Jason Terry is a scorer not a PG. T-Mac is showing why he is the real deal. He is also proving that the real season is in the playoffs. T-Mac never played that hard for Orlando! He got Doc Rivers fired for it, that is black on black crime.
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Post by SCAR on Apr 27, 2005 10:22:27 GMT -5
GOAT, still got jokes about my enormous dome. Which is funny coming from the Head of the Class. YOur head is so wide, if you wore a white hat, they could show a movie on it  . While you are on here, we have to get your opinion in the other thread about college players and programs being clean etc. |
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Post by GOAT on Apr 27, 2005 11:04:24 GMT -5
Scar, you know you had to hold your graduation cap in your hand when you graduated because it couldn't stay still when you placed it on the top of your metrodome.
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Post by aLUmnus on Apr 27, 2005 12:00:15 GMT -5
Unless the Spurs can get it going again, the Pistons will once again repeat. And the East looks boring because they actually play defense, which, the last time I checked, is still part of basketball. That's why people think teams like the Pistons and Spurs are boring and the NBA has turned into a league for thugs and the "ADD" generation.
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Post by GOAT on Apr 27, 2005 13:19:16 GMT -5
Alumnus, would you call the league a bunch of thugs if it were predominantly white, hispanic etc... Don't hate the player hate the game.
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Post by LUconn on Apr 27, 2005 14:03:48 GMT -5
I think he was referring to the fans.
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Post by aLUmnus on Apr 27, 2005 14:56:11 GMT -5
GOAT, I respect you and loved you as a player, but you had no room to say that, and you took the statement totally wrong. It's obvious who the league and each team markets to and who the players cater to, and it has nothing to do with race, but the type of person. I am a huge fan of the NBA, always have been, and if it had something to do with race, I'd hate the NBA and tune in to baseball and hockey, so please point your finger back in your pocket.
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Post by belcherboy on Apr 27, 2005 15:00:29 GMT -5
PISTONS!!!!!
I don't care what Miami has, they can't keep up man for man with the Pistons IMO. This year the Pistons are the team to beat and I don't know if anyone can beat them in a seven game series.
by the way, I got lower level suite tickets to the first game next round!! WOO HOO!!!
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Post by aLUmnus on Apr 27, 2005 15:44:30 GMT -5
Blast you, BelcherBoy, those should be mine!
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Post by GOAT on Apr 28, 2005 10:14:14 GMT -5
Alumnus, I apologize if I took your statement out of context. Just needed your appropriate clarification in your earlier remarks. I love this message board, One Love!
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Post by LU Fan on Apr 28, 2005 11:31:12 GMT -5
In the midst of the playoffs, what do you guys think about the age policy? I agree to all the factors that it would probably make the league more fundemental, college basketball would be that much better, and all the other factors like the NBDL and what not......but if a kid is ready to go....i dont see why anyone should stop him...if he doesn't see that even 1 year of college ball would help...that is not the NBA's fault in my opinion
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Post by LUconn on Apr 28, 2005 13:16:41 GMT -5
I don't like where the age policy is going. They way I've seen it talked it seems as if it would push kids away from college and into the NBDL. Kinda like a minor league setup. I like it in the sense of the NFL's policy.
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Post by Sly Fox on Apr 28, 2005 20:06:19 GMT -5
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Post by ishbox on Apr 28, 2005 22:07:32 GMT -5
Alumnus, would you call the league a bunch of thugs if it were predominantly white, hispanic etc... Don't hate the player hate the game. of course you wouldn't call it thugball....itd be more like fundamental boring ball....it was predominantly black in the mid 80's when fundamentals and team basketball was the name of the game so why does it have to be a race issue??good job of trying to make it one.... the nba has turned into thug ball....traveling all over the place, dunk contest, the mysterious dissappearance of the mid range jumpshot and defense...the definition of thug ball...the quality just isn't there anymore... and i believe alot of it has to do with these new kids who arn't ready but teams know they have to jump on them or else someone else will drafting them, sitting them on the bench, and pushing a vet off the roster that is still useful. These new kids come from being the man playing against 5'6" kids and they are being drafted to play with these tree trunks and they just arnt' ready... lebron is an aberation-once-in-a-quarter-of-a-century thing...look at how long it took for todays stars that came out of highschool to actually be worthwhile... on the playoffs...i don't see houston getting passed san antonio or pheonix but if t-mac keeps playin off the chain anything can happen. phx will come up short and the Spurs will rain supreme in the east it looks as if the bulls can win they will lose to the pistons because they look like they did last year...but miami will prevail with shaq and wade IMO |
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Post by LU Fan on Apr 29, 2005 8:49:14 GMT -5
Thanks for the video Sly, i dont care what you call the NBA....that is pretty. I agree the game has gone down in fundamentals, but I like what Kenny Smith said last night on INSIDE THE NBA on TNT...it really wasnt that the talent had gone down, it was more some of the way it has been coached and shot selection. Kenny said kids are putting up shots these days that they would have been cut for in the 80's. I do not think it is a race issue at all, but you can not deny as Larry Bird said last summer that it is a black man's game. When is the last white high school superstar?  ? Who care's what the race is, something has to be done, and i don't think pushing kids into the NBDL or forcing them to stay in school (although probably helpful) is the case. |
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Post by SCAR on Apr 29, 2005 10:00:05 GMT -5
As far as that video is concerned, If you are 7'6'' you should never, ever be ducking from a dunk attempt. Patrick Ewing got posterized more times than you can count and he has blocked his share of dunk attempts but I can't recall him ever ducking like a scared turtle....Dallas can still win that series. Wizards will win game 3 but Bulls will win the series. Sixers are done, San Antonio is back in the saddle. Pacers will survive if 73 year old Reggie Miller can keep playing this way (I borrowed that one from Stuart Scott). The Heat will Sweep now that it is 3-0. There will be no Redsox-like comeback from Jersey.
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Post by GOAT on Apr 29, 2005 11:29:13 GMT -5
We have got some sensitive people in this group. Scar, Reggie Miller needs to stick around another year. He does the same thing every year and they still can't figure out how to guard him. What he does is remarkable considering that most of his points come off of jump shots and he doesn't get to the free throw line that much. He unlike most other pros understands what a good shot is. Houston will not get by Dallas. All Dallas needed was a win now the pressure is somewhat off.
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Post by SCAR on Apr 29, 2005 11:42:38 GMT -5
Pressure is still on Mavs GOAT. You think if they lose game 4 and go down 3-1 that they will come back? They could but it is not likely. Therefore the pressure is on them. I know you like to cheer for the hometeam but they better get a wakeup call and start to hoop. Reggie should play another year. He may just decide to do it.
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Post by LU Fan on Apr 29, 2005 14:20:57 GMT -5
Why is it that it seems all the posters involve a 7-footer. All the dunk highlights seem to involve the Shawn Bradleys, Yoa Mings, and who can forget.....the man who wore a dunk on me sign...Mark Eaton. As you would all guess by now....I would LOVE for Reggie to play another year....but dont you think now that he has announced, and the way he is going out now...it almost a story book ending...Title or Not?
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Post by aLUmnus on Apr 29, 2005 15:23:23 GMT -5
It will be forever etched in my mind when Patrick Ewing was going up for a breakaway power dunk against the T-wolves, and out of nowhere comes Isiah (or is it JR?) Rider, who skies and puts a nasty block on Ewing while he is about to stuff the ball into the net. What an amazing athlete Rider was.
And don't knock Mark Eaton, one of the best defenders in NBA history.
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Post by Sly Fox on Apr 29, 2005 19:02:30 GMT -5
GOAT - If this road thing holds serve, the Rockets win in seven. Frankly, I see them taking care of business in 5 or 6. The Mavs were extremely fortunate to win a game they had no business taking in Game 3. The Rockets were extremely loose today despite that 4th quarter power outage. Get ready for a blowout in Game 4 that will send the Mavs back up I-45 trying to figure out how the Greatest Mavs Team of All Time could be in this predicament.
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Post by MDIVIVVY on Apr 29, 2005 19:36:28 GMT -5
Watch the Pistons Sixers game right now in the East Campus Clubhouse. If they keep playing like they did in the first quarter, watch out!! 6 of 7 from three point land
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Post by belcherboy on Apr 30, 2005 21:35:06 GMT -5
Blast you, BelcherBoy, those should be mine! I also got tickets to Tuesdays game 5 against Philly. aLUmnus, do you live up here in Michigan?? I would gladly do my best to get you a ticket next time I come across them! (which I quite often do) Let me know. I can't make any guarantees but would try my best!! |
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? Who care's what the race is, something has to be done, and i don't think pushing kids into the NBDL or forcing them to stay in school (although probably helpful) is the case.