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Post by flamesfan710 on Jul 21, 2005 10:11:48 GMT -5
That is a typo Im sure. We are headed to Rupp Arena for that game. Someboy needs to proofread these things better before they get posted to the internet
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Post by LUconn on Jul 21, 2005 11:00:21 GMT -5
Actually, I heard Tubby is a big War of the Worlds fan and he wanted to play where it was filmed. Sources say he'd also like to go to Hull's Drive-in after the game. After that, maybe a ghost tour of the town, I've been on it and it's pretty neat. Did you know that they have Lee's horse's sekelton on display in the bottom of the Chapel at Washington & Lee?
In conclusion, it obvious it is not a typo. Tubby has confirmed.
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Post by Sly Fox on Jul 21, 2005 11:49:47 GMT -5
My first reaction is that I can't believe we are playing close enough to me to make a game. The December 29th game ay McNeese State is less than two hours from my house. Count me in.
My second reaction was who is Cincinnati Christian. As a native Cincinnatian, I had no idea what they were talking about. After checking out the website, it became obvious that they just created a new name for Cincinnati Bible College. They play in the NCCAA. Not the NCAA, but the National Christian College Athletic Association. Its a big notch BELOW the level of NAIA. I'm familiar with this outfit since my parents went to one of their schools ... Tennessee Temple.
I am SHOCKED that we are playing both LC and Cincinnati in games that count. There's no way we should be scheduling these schools for anything other than exhibitions. We must have had an incredibly difficult time scheduling to wind up with these dogs. They are going to KILL our RPI.
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Post by Abby Ally on Jul 21, 2005 12:17:24 GMT -5
one little heads up only division 1 teams affect RPI
I like this schedule better than last years
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Post by flamesfan710 on Jul 21, 2005 12:49:06 GMT -5
Actually, I heard Tubby is a big War of the Worlds fan and he wanted to play where it was filmed. Sources say he'd also like to go to Hull's Drive-in after the game. After that, maybe a ghost tour of the town, I've been on it and it's pretty neat. Did you know that they have Lee's horse's sekelton on display in the bottom of the Chapel at Washington & Lee? In conclusion, it obvious it is not a typo. Tubby has confirmed. www.ukathletics.com/index.php?s=&change_well_id=9995&url_channel_id=37 Im assuming you are tryig to be funny though
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Post by realist on Jul 21, 2005 12:53:34 GMT -5
That sced seems pretty weak--though the shootout games could change it. The bible college game won't affect your RPI though, but Longwood will.
And as my civic duty----don't ever, ever, ever eat at Moe's restuarant chain---if you have them wherever you are. I spent the night in the hospital with salmonella poisoning and lost 15 pounds in 24 hours. I wanted to die.
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Post by LUconn on Jul 21, 2005 13:02:51 GMT -5
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Post by LUconn on Jul 21, 2005 13:18:53 GMT -5
And as for the schedule, yeah it is pretty weak. But I don't think a high RPI is our goal this year. The real question is, Will this schedule prepare us for league play? I don't think it will. Our brutal schedule the last couple years seems to have prepared them well finishing 2, 1, and 2 in the regular season.
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Post by Stevev on Jul 21, 2005 14:55:11 GMT -5
I thought that Coach Dunton said when he first took the job was to eliminate teams not in Div 1. Cincinnati Bible, I have never heard of them. What an embarrassment to go that low. I like the games vs Kentucky, Virginia, and Mississippi State. Buffalo is a good mid-major team. Not impressed at all by the rest of the schedule. No Colonial or Southern conference teams. Could have done a better job of scheduling in my opinion.
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Post by WinthropEagleFan on Jul 21, 2005 15:16:07 GMT -5
Here's your opponents' RPIs from last year:
UVA - 80 Cincinnati Christian - non-D1 Kentucky - 11 Longwood - 329 Lynchburg - non-D1 Buffalo - 46 Lipscomb - 220 Mississippi St - 29 Akron/Mt. St. Mary's - 70/314 Clemson/Holy Cross/Chattanooga/Puerto Rico - 87/66/135/non D-1 McNeese - 246 Marist - 260 Longwood - 329
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Post by WinthropEagleFan on Jul 21, 2005 15:36:45 GMT -5
Wow...Charleston Southern released their schedule today and they have 4 non-D1 schools on their slate, and except for their annual game vs. College of Charleston, Clemson, and Wake Forest, it is pretty weak....and how the heck did they get Clemson to agree to come down to Charleston to play them? That's messed up...The Tigers have always been to scared to come up to Rock Hill lately:
College of Charleston (@ N. Charleston Coliseum) - 145 Asbury - non-D1 Clemson (@ N. Charleston Coliseum) - 87 Erskine - non-D1 @ Citadel - 296 @ St. John's - 165 Newberry - non-D1 Southern Wesleyan - non-D1 @ Robert Morris - 224 @ Marshall - 235 @ Wake Forest - 7
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Post by Sly Fox on Jul 21, 2005 16:27:35 GMT -5
If I were a betting man, Clemson's decision probably had a great deal to do with big donors living Charleston who wanted a "home" game. Down here in Houston, we have the big boys Texas and Texas A&M come play games at Rice (and sometimes UH) all the time to suuport their huge alumni bases. And it doesn't hurt recruiting either to get the covereage killing the local boys.
And I stand corrected on the RPI. I had forgotten about that caveat. There's still no excuses for scheduling NCCAA or DIII schools.
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Post by HarrisburgFlame on Jul 21, 2005 17:21:40 GMT -5
I hear you guys but I have no problem with padding the schedule with an easy win or two. As shallow as it may seem during the recruiting process kids look first and foremost at Wins and Losses. Losing David really hurts. I know Coach Dunton said we'll play the best of the best but who's to say our schedule is a product of not being able to dates with big time opponents? we still get UVA and UK and the San Juan Shootout. That's not too bad right? Buffalo had a great year last year. The gimme games out of conference are:
Cincinnati Christian Longwood (2) Lynchburg Lipscomb Marist McNeese (may not be a gimme)
Let's say that's 7 wins. Let's say we win one in the San Juan Shootout - makes 8. 16 conference games and let's say we finish 8-8. That's 16 wins guys. 16-13 in almost the worst case scenario. To me that's much better that sub .500 and we still have enough name opponents on the schedule to "name drop" if you will.
I have no problem with the schedule. Blast away!
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Post by Sly Fox on Jul 21, 2005 21:30:07 GMT -5
I wouldn't assume Marist & McNeese St. are automatics. If we play as well as we think we might then we should beat all of those listed. But I still have major issues with scheduling DIIIs and NCCAAs. There are scads of DIIs who would love to have a DI come calling. Just being associated with such bottomfeeders is bad for our rep. But I agree that a few palookas after dealing with some of the big boys makes sense. Just not THAT low of a palooka.
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Post by ATrain on Jul 22, 2005 10:25:24 GMT -5
Yes-but we are also overlooking the fact that Longwood and LC are both local schools, meaning more people at the gates who aren't students=more ticket $ale$
As for Cincinnati Christian-couldn't we at least have gotten an NAIA or brought over Hampden-Sydney? Though to be honest HSC has a quality Division III program that, going by last years OT win over DIII Shenandoah, could possibly beat us.
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Post by HarrisburgFlame on Jul 22, 2005 10:31:24 GMT -5
Great points regarding local opponents. The only thing on Cincinnati Christian I can figure is either there is a connection we don't know about and somebody owed somebody else a favor - or more than likely - it's that tough to find out of conference games anymore.
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Post by LUconn on Jul 22, 2005 10:43:04 GMT -5
After having seen LC's BBall team on the front page of the sports section more times than I care to recall, I hope we stuff a 30+point margin down their throats. Nothing would please me more than for LU to humiliate that peice of garbage school and have the N&A forced to report it to the town.
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Post by Sly Fox on Jul 22, 2005 12:17:14 GMT -5
I agree wholeheartedly, LUconn. I just wish it were an exhibition instead of a real game on our schedule.
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Post by flamesfan710 on Jul 22, 2005 16:12:42 GMT -5
After having seen LC's BBall team on the front page of the sports section more times than I care to recall, I hope we stuff a 30+point margin down their throats. Nothing would please me more than for LU to humiliate that peice of garbage school and have the N&A forced to report it to the town. Hah! I hop we do to them what the Liberty women's team did to Winthrop in that game after our streak got broken by High Point. I say beat em by 50!!!
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Post by Stevev on Jul 23, 2005 5:56:00 GMT -5
All I can relate to as far as Cincinnati Christian is that last year they played Div 1 Nichols State and lost by 60 points. The other teams on there schedule I can't relate to at all except Tennessee Temple, but they are a few notches below where they used to be back in the 80's
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Post by Stevev on Jul 23, 2005 5:59:01 GMT -5
How comes the womens team hasn't played a div 2 team since the Rick Reeves era and the mens team continues to put this crap on their schedule.
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Post by HarrisburgFlame on Jul 23, 2005 6:05:01 GMT -5
it has to be a product of not being able to secure opponents and dates. Or someone at LU has a conection with someone at Cincinnati Christian and owes them a favor. When I graduated college I coached DIII football for a few years and even at that level it's a real challenge getting games. It's not as easy as you think and sometimes you have to take what you can get.
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Post by Stevev on Jul 23, 2005 6:32:12 GMT -5
I see! I was thinking that maybe being in the weak Big South Conference had something to do with it. Since we have to measure up to the low standards set by other teams in the league (Chuck south plays 4 div 2 teams and lost to one last year). In contrast the Colonial conference teams play 0 non div 1 teams. Of course that doesn't explain the situation with the womens team. I am sure Coach Green has a lot to do with it. Any thoughts.
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Post by HarrisburgFlame on Jul 23, 2005 7:22:44 GMT -5
I think you make a good point. Higher profile DI teams are more than likely going to look at Colonial teams or lower end A10 teams as tune ups before the conference season so LU and the BigSouth is lower on the pecking order for these games. That makes it even more difficult given set dates, times, locations to find the perfect match with a high profile school.
Football is a real scheduling mess because there are fewer games and thus fewer dates. Add in traveling expenses, guaranteed payouts, etc. - it becomes a real maze!
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Post by Sly Fox on Jul 23, 2005 7:44:01 GMT -5
I actually believe that our womens team may begin to be a victim of their own success to an extent. Nobody wants to play a dangerous team that does little to fire up their own fan base. But you points are all valid, Steve.
I just find it hard to believe we can't get anyone to fill that date besides a school from the lowest rung of 4-year basketball.
CBC is a good little school that actually used to send students LU's way back int he day when they were basically a 2-year Bible school much like Word of Life up in NY. But come on ...
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Post by thesportscritic on Jul 24, 2005 14:50:41 GMT -5
Why are we scheduling lower teams like in DIII or NCCAA? I hope they are ready for Kentucky's physical play. They are going to bring it. The team is going to be destroyed up there. We don't have the skills to even compete with them. But it will at least get us ready for Winthrop maybe. Final Score for Kentucky will be 106-48 with us on the wrong end of that
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Post by ATrain on Jul 24, 2005 18:03:29 GMT -5
Maybe not quite that drastic, but it will be lopsided against Kentucky...hopefully the $$$ the program gets from that game is worth it.
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Post by HarrisburgFlame on Jul 25, 2005 8:27:40 GMT -5
Yep - no downside in a game like that. It's a good game to tell recruits - "hey we play UK". We get an automatic $$$. Kids get to play in a great atmosphere. And no one expects you to win. If you can keep it remotely close and gain experience = win.
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Post by PAmedic on Nov 3, 2005 23:52:10 GMT -5
Part of one of CHRIS' latest articles showing how Longwood evidently wants to start a rivalry w/ us, and is begging into the BSOUTH??? is this even remotely feasable? I don't even remember a Longwood from the 80's. Selling Longwood
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Post by PAmedic on Nov 3, 2005 23:59:44 GMT -5
not to get off track, but here's a link to Longwood U. I found it interesting. 4000 students? ok, I'm listening. is the BSOUTH though? also, see Longwood Athletics websitethey are evidently in year 3 of their transition to D1.
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