Debate Team

[PAmedic]

these kids are unbelievable- kudos to the coaching staff as well!

Liberty University Debate is 2004-2005 American Debate Association National Rankings Champions

www.liberty.edu/index.cfm?PID=6848&NewsID=51

[ishbox]

congrats on being the kings of the nerd kingdom!

[PAmedic]

ISH- if you're nice, maybe one of them will give you a job some day, or at least let you vote for them when they are running the country! we're not on the same page, intellectually, w/ these guys.

[PastorZack]

As a former member of the debate team at LU, I can tell you most of these kids aren't smarter than the rest of us...what they have that most of us don't is the ability to string about 10,000 more words into a minute than we can.

Naturally, they present problems for people because people obviously can't write or type as fast as they speak so, arguments are lost in the babble... and in debate you cannot win if you lose arguments.

[Sly Fox]

Hey Zack, don't blow my cover. I never was on the debate team (it was a bunch of Pre-Law guys back in my day) but that's been my primary tactic in arguments for years.

[MDIVIVVY]

I remember getting into a "discussion" with a debator about how the money is split amongst the sports teams and debate teams and the success of the different programs. Man she was a firecracker. Just love Jerry's quote about what brings in students: Winning ATHLETICS

[PAmedic]

according to the National Liberty Journal the team finished the year ranked #1 in the ADA polls.

If I can find a link to that paper that works (or get the site to come up??) I'll post it.

[img src="http://www.liberty.edu/Media/images/[162]Banner.JPG"]

[PAmedic]

they're at it again! the quote "best start in team history" is actually scary, for the opposing teams anyway! How much better can these guys/girls get?

Debate Wins Back-to-Back Tournaments at Richmond and West Point

October 27, 2005

The Liberty University Debate Team is off to one of its best starts in team history as it celebrates its 25th year of debate at Liberty University. After hosting its own tournament October 7-9, the Liberty University squad hit the road for back-to-back contests at the University of Richmond and the United States Military Academy at West Point. The result at each tournament was the same with Liberty University dominating the competition and winning both tournaments.

Liberty University won both the novice and junior varsity divisions at each tournament. JV debaters, Georgia Hamman, Kirsten Porter-Stransky, Rachel Hassenpflug, and Erin Beard closed out the final round at Richmond while Amy Boyd, Jacob Hovis, Jenni Thurmond, and Erica Heershap won the novice division. The varsity team of Tabetha Bryant and Nate Milton finished fourth. Over 80 teams attended the tournament with Liberty University defeating rivals Emory, George Mason, Mary Washington, and Wake Forest en route to victory. Liberty University placed more teams into elimination rounds than any other school and took home 13 speaker awards including Thurmond as the top speaker in the novice division.

The Liberty University squad was even more dominating at West Point where the team advanced all but one (10 of 11) of its teams into elimination rounds. In the semifinals, Liberty University teams constituted half of the field (six of the 12 remaining teams). Liberty University took home the top speaker award in both the JV and Novice divisions as Kirsten Porter-Stransky (a graduate of Liberty Christian Academy) won in JV and Daniel White won in Novice. Liberty University finished with the first, third, fourth, fifth, and sixth placed individual teams in JV with Liberty Christian Academy graduate Spencer Drake and Garrett Halydier winning first place. Liberty University also had the first, third, fourth, and fifth place teams in novice as Daniel White and Lauren Zawistowski won first place. Zawistowski had returned to Liberty only three days before the tournament after attending the funeral of her fiancé who was killed while serving in the United States Marine Corps in Iraq. The varsity team made a solid run at winning the Cadet Saber (the West Point traveling trophy for the winner of the varsity division), but finished third after losing a close debate to the University of Vermont in the semifinals. Liberty University defeated teams from Boston College, Cornell, and New York University in securing its second win of the season at the tournament where over 110 teams participated.

Liberty University travels to Catholic University on November 3-6 for the Catholic University Debate Tournament in Washington, D.C.

[ATrain]

How much better can we get? How about winning 1st place in all three debate associations we compete in...and I don't care what anyone says, we'd own the Big South in a debate tournament, moreso than we do in women's bball currently.

[PAmedic]

I'm always confused because we state that the team won the tourney, then you read further that Varsity came in 3rd?? I guess all 3 teams contribute to an overall score?
Regardless- these guys (generic) are GOOD!

[Sly Fox]

From Falwell Confidential:

Liberty Debate Closes First Semester Ranked First in All Three Policy Debate Rankings



In an amazing achievement, the Liberty University Debate Team has finished the fall semester ranked in first place in all three national Policy Debate Rankings. I wanted to share this information with my Falwell Confidential friends and am forwarding to you an e-mail from Liberty’s Debate Coach Brett O’Donnell regarding this remarkable accomplishment (see below).



For Immediate Release

December 18, 2005



Liberty Debate finished the first half of the 2005-06 season with a strong performance winning the John Carroll University Debate Tournament and widened its lead in all of the policy debate rankings (The American Debate Association, the Cross Examination Debate Association and the National Debate Tournament). Liberty was last ranked first in all three rankings in the 2002-03 season, but failed to win all three that year falling to Catholic University in the end-of-the-season ADA rankings. The Liberty debaters return to action on December 29 at the University of Southern California as they attempt to make debate history and win all three rankings championships in one season.



Current National Debate Tournament Rankings



1. Liberty University
450

2. Wayne State University
406

3. Emory
397

4. Kansas (Univ. of)
394

5. Missouri State
380

6. Dartmouth
364

7. Missouri-Kansas City
344

8. California
341

9. Mary Washington (Univ of)
323

10. Binghamton
321

10. Northwestern
321

12. Vanderbilt
319

13. U.S. Military Academy
313

14. Michigan State Univ.
306

14. Wake Forest
306

16. Rochester (Univ. of
305

17. Georgia
299

18. Baylor
292

18. Oklahoma
292

20. Cornell University
270

21. Whitman College
265

22. George Mason University
264

23. Kansas State
260

24. Miami
251

25. Texas-Dallas
243



Current Cross Examination Debate Association Rankings



1. Liberty University
160
31

2. Missouri-Kansas City
136
39

3. Emory
124
18

4. Wayne State University
123
27

5. California
118
18

6. Kansas (Univ. of)
117
21

7. Binghamton
113
22

8. Dartmouth
113
12

9. Northwestern
110
13

10. Missouri State
107
7

11. Rochester (Univ. of
102
18

12. Michigan State Univ.
99
13

13. Whitman College
93
18

14. U.S. Military Academy
92
11

15. Vanderbilt
91
21

16. Mary Washington (Univ of)
91
11

17. Georgia
90
12

18. Cornell University
86
13

19. Wake Forest
86
5

20. Oklahoma
85
14

21. Harvard
80
14

22. Texas-Dallas
79
7

23. Baylor
77
3

24. Central Oklahoma (Un
76
16

25. George Mason University
76
12




Current American Debate Association Rankings



1. Liberty University 432.5

2. Mary Washington 279.5

3. Binghamton 158

4. Wayne State 157

5. Clarion 141

6. George Mason 125

7. US Military Academy 104

8. Trinity University 100.5

9. Towson 92

10. Rochester 91



For more information contact:



Brett M. O'Donnell

Director of Debate

Liberty University

1971 University Blvd.

Lynchburg, VA 24502

434-582-2080

[PAmedic]

Congrats to Brett and the teams, this is one incredible program- what a witness for the school!

[ishbox]

pamedic said:

according to the National Liberty Journal the team finished the year ranked #1 in the ADA polls.

If I can find a link to that paper that works (or get the site to come up??) I'll post it.

[img src="http://www.liberty.edu/Media/images/[162]Banner.JPG"]

if they had a behind them shot, each one of them would be holding a pair of these...

www.northfieldartsguild.org/images/misc/nerd%20glasses%202.jpg

*** I hesitated to help Ishbox by fixing his code. Geesh. At least get a pic that fits on a screen. - Sly Fox ***

[LUconn]

seriously, there had to be a smaller picture of glasses somwhere in the internet.

[ishbox]

haha it was much smaller on the page i stole it from..plus i was posting it as a url not a img

[PAmedic]

gotta back up my bro ISH

[ishbox]

pamedic said:

gotta back up my bro ISH

thanks man,

i just didn't think it was funny enough to upload resize and rehost.....if you don't know yet you'll be surprised to find that i'm kind of lazy

[PAmedic]

thats what we're here for- your support system. I'm sure the debate team found it as hilarious as we did- hey, its our board.