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Post by aLUmnus on Apr 5, 2005 9:34:03 GMT -5
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Post by MDIVIVVY on Apr 5, 2005 11:35:40 GMT -5
GREEAAAAAAAAAAAAT, just what we need. Like we don't cause enough trouble in and of our selves. I guess it really iritates me how people do this kind of thing. Like, don't they read the rules. Of course, we all have our vices I guess, not that it's right. I noticed that LU really didn't comment on the information, but it seems to be one thing after another. Sigh. I hate when some bad apples ruin the rep of a pretty good bunch.
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Post by Sly Fox on Apr 5, 2005 12:36:48 GMT -5
You think?
What an embarassing episode. But I have to tell you that I couldn't help but grin alittle reading the story when it mentioned how they were caught. The Liberty Way must still have that legendary honor code in there.
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Post by aLUmnus on Apr 5, 2005 15:20:18 GMT -5
I love the "plastic bags and plant material", and the "white notebook with writing in it". Great article, fishwrap, and try to mention Liberty University a few more times next time.
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Post by PAmedic on Apr 6, 2005 9:46:49 GMT -5
had the same thought SLY! the WAY is alive and well, and in this case- worked! Personal habits are one thing- breaking and entering/burglery and possession w/ intent to distribute is another entirely.
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Post by LUconn on Apr 6, 2005 11:16:08 GMT -5
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Post by PAmedic on Apr 6, 2005 16:30:43 GMT -5
delusions of grandeur maybe, seems WAY over the top for a stupid liquor store robbery.
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Post by El Scorcho on Apr 6, 2005 22:37:50 GMT -5
Wow. LU is getting dogged pretty hard over on the WSET.com site. If you read the stories and see the comments from the locals on there...yeesh!  |
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Post by PAmedic on Apr 7, 2005 10:44:31 GMT -5
I'm surprised any of those rednecks from the 'burg know what a computer is, let alone have the capabilities to operate "one o' them-thar fancified calcu-latin' macheeens"
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Post by PittLU on Apr 7, 2005 10:49:25 GMT -5
You know.....what do you expect? WE ARE ALL HUMAN! Why is it that if you stand for something and someone associated with you does something wrong that you are automatically and unmercifully dogged? You know why - BECAUSE WE HAVE A BACKBONE AND GUTS TO STAND FOR SOMETHING.
This story is backpage fodder for 99.9% of universities out there, but because this is Lynchburg and a bug getting squashed on a windshield is news, then it is a big deal. It seems as if locals love bad news on LU because then they can rip the ONLY thing in that town that makes that town. Take LU away from Lynchburg, and it is a podunk, pisant, hicktown with nothing but the Hillcats for entertainment (if you could call them entertainment - they are associated with the Pirates).
Seriously, this makes me so mad. No one was killed. No one was injured and a notebook = bank robber. Lynchburg justice.
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Post by LUconn on Apr 7, 2005 11:01:38 GMT -5
Well actually the story is pretty big with bank robbery = FBI. But them attending LU has nothing to do with it. We're just supposed to be better so they love it when we're not.
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Post by aLUmnus on Apr 7, 2005 12:10:59 GMT -5
The thing is the "mastermind" had already been expelled by LU. Seems to me like the school had already been doing its job.
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Post by El Scorcho on Apr 7, 2005 14:11:30 GMT -5
One thing I haven't seen pointed out yet is if these were students from out of state who came to Lynchburg to attend LU or if they're part of the LARGE contingent of locals who come to LU because it's there. In my experience, the local kids who commute were always the troublemakers. As hard as the school is being dogged for bringing in troublemakers, it seems like someone would research where these kids are from...but that might make it harder to blame LU.  |
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Post by LUconn on Apr 7, 2005 14:38:30 GMT -5
it would also require the least bit of journalism and/or effort. I don't think that's what they're going for here.
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Post by aLUmnus on Apr 7, 2005 15:39:10 GMT -5
Well, they gave the names of the current LU students, and also said that they had on-campus addresses, so I doubt they were locals. They had their mugs on the news last night, so I assume you can also see them on the news channel's website.
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Post by SeoulFlame on Apr 7, 2005 21:43:20 GMT -5
Hey all, My brother currently is an Senior and is frustated by the fact that LU takes 97 percent of applicants. Is it just me or should we be a little (just a little) more selective. I hope that we have a standard higher than "breathing". We might be able to avoid stuff like this. It is embarrassing.
Your thoughts?
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Post by aLUmnus on Apr 8, 2005 6:42:55 GMT -5
Well, Rob Jackson said that for the first time in LU's history, there will be a line to get in the school, meaning they won't be able to accept everyone who applies. This still doesn't say anything regarding how they'll accept or reject students, but it's a start (at least until they build some new dorms).
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Post by aLUmnus on Apr 8, 2005 7:56:24 GMT -5
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Post by LUconn on Apr 8, 2005 9:22:09 GMT -5
the rumor always was that someone had once applied their dog and he had gotten accepted. Now I doubt that's true, but if you want to grow a school to 25,000 on campus students before a 70 year old man dies, how else would you do it? It doesn't mean our academics/ethics suck, those that shouldnt be there academic-wise and attitude-wise aren't invited back most of the time. That's why that one nitwit was a FORMER LU student. I don't agree with this meathod but until we're at the level of students we want, you can't really be too selective.
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Post by PittLU on Apr 8, 2005 10:47:49 GMT -5
CATCH 22
You cannot grow a school and be selective at the same time. We all seem to forget that this U is only 34 years old. I would think it is a pretty true statement that LU growth is pretty unprecedented for a private institution of its age.
With all that being said - once you hit your enrollement target, you can start being selective. Until then, dogs may get accepted....
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Post by JackSparrow81 on Apr 8, 2005 14:45:16 GMT -5
Where is your bro getting this 97% number? Im not saying he is right or wrong, but ive heard since 2001 that they have turned down a quite large amount of students from a pretty reliable source. im just not sure.
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Post by SeoulFlame on Apr 8, 2005 19:22:23 GMT -5
I looked up the admissions rate at Liberty on Princeton Review and for this year they accepted 67% of students that applied. In the passed I know that number has been a lot higher. Good to see they are going in the right direction.
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Post by Guest on Apr 9, 2005 15:39:40 GMT -5
I'm one of the 66 percent!  |
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Post by PAmedic on Apr 11, 2005 5:21:15 GMT -5
the dog enrollment story was hot back in the day as well- I believe it was based in fact. Evidently Jerrys arch nemesis (at the time) Larry Flynt purposely registered non-existent people and supposedly successfully applied in the name of the family dog. LU Urban legend?
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Post by PAmedic on Apr 11, 2005 15:19:32 GMT -5
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Post by PAmedic on Apr 18, 2005 11:29:58 GMT -5
Reading some of the "opinions" in the fish wrap, I'm wondering: other than the obvious pre-disposition against us due to religious belief (or lack thereof), why is there such distaste for anything LU. People posting on there basically called everything posted on our official site lies and misinformation, citing "obvious" spin and mistakes. I do think we are our worst enemy sometimes w/ the LU slant on things though.
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Post by PAmedic on Apr 18, 2005 11:34:00 GMT -5
my last post is very unclear- I apologize. Here's my point: an example is the little piece on the golf tourney last month. Its minor, but we put it out there that Lehigh was a DNF- when in fact they were tied 15th. A lack of accurate reporting/editing maybe- but it damages our credibility.
what bothers me is, hearing for years that our debate team is #1 NATIONALLY, to find out that maybe it was never true? And the "league" ranking us is headed by our own faculty? Thats not spin, thats- well, something worse. Please tell me I'm wrong on this one.
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Post by El Scorcho on Apr 19, 2005 5:28:55 GMT -5
what bothers me is, hearing for years that our debate team is #1 NATIONALLY, to find out that maybe it was never true? And the "league" ranking us is headed by our own faculty? Thats not spin, thats- well, something worse. Please tell me I'm wrong on this one. I read the posts to which I think you are referring, as well. Simply put, I'm not sure where those people are getting their information from. LU's debate team has in fact been ranked #1 overall several times over the past few years in the associations that they participate in. As for independent sources, you can go here for NDT ranking info for the last three years. The ADA (a much smaller organization) rankings for the past couple of decades can be found here. As for CEDA, you can view the 04-05 rankings here and the tournament results here. We're not number 1 this year in many of those, but 2, 3 and 4 aren't so bad either. It's quite apparent just spending a little time with Google that the comments being tossed around on the WSET website were just wishful thinking on the part of the local haters. |
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Post by MDIVIVVY on Apr 19, 2005 7:46:28 GMT -5
Ya know, I heard that there was a little truth in everything. Obviously, we all slant things to the extent that we have personal perception. I do think that in the past we have been somewhat neglegent and haughty in how we report, but on the other side, there are some that do hate us because we are Christians. And there are some who have been burned or seen hypocrisy in Christians. If I may paraphrase the "Princess Bride" "I give you my word as a Christian" "No good, I've known too many Christians!" I don't know, I think a sign of maturity is rising above are own personal perceptions and actually investigating the matter isntead of leveling blanket accusations and generalizations
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Post by HoldMyOwn on Apr 19, 2005 9:29:29 GMT -5
I guess being a few points behind Harvard isnt all that bad...i hear they dont allow in 67% of their applicants...they let in 57% j/k |
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