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Post by givemethemic on Nov 26, 2005 13:04:55 GMT -5
This is going to be interesting, I work for UVA and alot of people that I know see this happening. If Rocco was to be hired, I wonder if he would bring his brother Frank back to be the O-Cord. Well I will try to get some more light on this tonight and see when a decsion will be made.
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Post by Stevev on Nov 26, 2005 14:32:20 GMT -5
Question Is Frank Rocco the LCA head coach? I would think that would lure Danny over to LU to hopefully bring Frank back. Just a thought.
I read all of the posts and right now I would have to say that I am not anticipating a move to big time football within 10 years. They might go 1A but probably at the level of a Troy State, Louisiana Monroe, Florida Atlantic, or Middle Tennessee State. They might get in the Sunbelt or maybe the MAC but can't see them moving up any further than that. In the mean time with the right coach I want to see them be a consistent winner in 1AA similiar to what McNeese State, Delaware, Youngstown, Furman, Western Kentucky, Georgia Southern, Hofstra, or App State is doing right now or have done in the past. Of course we must clear the Big South obsticle that stands in our way right now. Playing in the worst conference in football certainly doesn't give us any credibility or help with recruiting. Hopefully we can schedule our way around that.
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Post by Another Guest on Nov 26, 2005 19:08:28 GMT -5
After watching FSU lay a goose egg against the Gators, they can keep Jeff Bowden.
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Post by tallyw on Nov 26, 2005 19:16:45 GMT -5
FSU had terrible protection on the line and a QB who held the ball far too long in addition to half a dozen (?) turnovers. With the team knowing that next week is where BCS counts, I can't hang everything on Jeff B. (Although I agree it should have been much closer of a game)
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Post by Sly Fox on Nov 26, 2005 23:19:33 GMT -5
xxx - Don't go away. We've appreciated your input and informed opinions help us keep things in perspective.
While I agree with the crux of your statements, I don't feel like the apples & oranges statements are particularly fair either. You are correct that BYU doesn't enforce their standards with athletes like the rest of the student body. Jim McMahon and Ty Detmer both went there espousing Catholicism (although the Punky QB was exactly devout to anything other than himself) and Ty married a Mormon and converted while on campus. I also knew a kid who I covered in Texas that got in some trouble with the law up there and yet remained ont he team. But the vast majority of their team are there primarily because of their faith. We need to further develop that mindset.
As for recruiting the top Christian athletes, I agree wholeheartedly that Jerry is a lightning rod who is both a blessing & curse when attracting athletes. The fact of the matter is that Jerry is less of a household name today than he was 20 years ago before the proliferation of cable & satellite television. It seems like the only time he's in the public eye these days is under political circumstances. But I don't think he's quite the ball & chain some might suggest. While it is true that Evangelical Christianity has many different aspects that cause divisions, the total number of Evangelicals dwarfs the LDS by 100-to-1 in America alone. So even a house divided has plenty enough numbers to provide a tremendous foundation for recruiting. And personally I believe the key to recruiting is by establishing a marketing effort connecting to churches across the nation using pastors to identify potential Division I athletes and acting as proxy recruiters for us in order to connect with kids who may not be aware of the options available.
The Tebow analogy was great. But keep in mind we were trying to land him with a schedule that started with Concord College and included only one school he's probably ever heard of on it. Oh yeah, we were in the midst of a 1-9 season. Now if we were a I-A school in a low-tier conference (say the Sunbelt for instance as a reasonable reference) where he knew he would be getting adequate opportunity to showcase him skills to NFL scouts then I think we might have stood a much better chance of landing him. Its been quite awhile ago, but allegedly we nearly pulled off a major coup back in the Sam regime with Casey Weldon. He had us in his final two but went with FSU when Bobby sold him and his parents on the Christian atmosphere in Tallahassee (granted that atmosphere at the time turned out to be a near penal colony with free shoes for everyone). And that was when we were fresh from stepping up from DII with no conference affiliation. Bottom line, if we give kids a viable option I sincerely believe we can start landing these kids.
As for the Richts & Bowdens of the world using Christianity to close deals on players, I have no problem with that. Liberty isn't for everyone and I certainly don't begrudge kids going elsewhere. I wish we had Christian coaches at every school in America. Unfortunately, that's not the case.
As for the money issue, I don't think its fair to compare us to Georgia for point of illustration. I have fairly intimate knowledge of what the school with the largest budget in college football (thank you Open Records Act). It is astronomical. But I think we can learn some lessons from another school down my way. TCU is a school a private school with an enrollment very similar to ours. They have an old 46k-seat stadium that rarely if ever half full (with the exception of LT's time on campus). They have a budget that is a fraction of most of the other schools in the Top 25. But there they sit 13th in the BCS rankings and 15th in the two major polls. If not for a unfathomable contest with SMU, they would be right in the thick of the national championship hunt. They are the 4th choice school (at best) for most recruits in their home state. This seems like a much more plausible comparison. Do I think we can achieve what the Horned Frogs have done? Its an extreme longshot but not completely out of the realm of possibilities.
The idea of pouring money on the program being the answer reminds me of those stupid IBM Consulting commercials running right now with the king and his knights around the table discussing how they can stop the invading barbarians. While sufficent funds are necessary to operate in a proper business model, its the ability to achieve reults from new means without breaking the bank that lead to the ultimate success. The same thing CAN apply to football but it will be a massive undertaking.
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Post by givemethemic on Nov 27, 2005 0:21:09 GMT -5
Frank is at LCA, he is the AD and the Football coach.
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Post by madmat79 on Nov 27, 2005 9:32:37 GMT -5
Let's look at this from another angle. What would be the list of criteria, in order of importance that would dictate the search. My list: 1. A professing believer in Jesus Christ as Lord & Savior. 2. Head Coaching experience at D II or better 3. Coaching experience at D IA 4. #2 includes a championship in league and a playoff run of multiple victories. 5. Has recruiting charisma and magnetism in which he can use LU's unique qualities as a recruiting advantage, not as an impairment. 6. Has an attitude of competitiveness that is infectious to everyone he works with. Spent this morning on www.ncaa.com and was looking at tournament brackets for DIAA & II and this seemed like an interesting place to explore for this purpose. I know there seems to be a "short list", has been for a while I guess. Any additions, deletions, or re-ordering?
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Post by madmat79 on Nov 27, 2005 9:33:17 GMT -5
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Post by baldspot on Nov 27, 2005 12:59:06 GMT -5
I agree with Madmat's criteria. It would be great if we could find someone along those lines. Not necessarily a must because we were down this road before with Sam but another criteria could be one with name recognition to help with the fundraising and recruiting. Another one I would like to see is a head coach with an already established recuiting base in the VA area such as the guy at UVA. The biggest problem with madmat's list may be with #4 as we may have to settle for a top flight coordinator without the successful head coaching track record. Let's hope we can find someone along those lines, however.
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Post by PAmedic on Nov 27, 2005 13:12:45 GMT -5
Assuming we are doing what it takes to bring a winner in here at all costs- the list is good. In fact, you could make it more stringent:
1. of course 2. D1A head coach <or> 3. NFL head coach or Coordinator 4. Playoff wins 5. ADMINISTRATIVE ACUMEN: includes Recruiting skills, management expertise, charisma, group dynamics 6. ABSOLUTE WILL TO WIN
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Post by LibertyGW on Nov 27, 2005 23:13:07 GMT -5
First of all...I am going to try to make this short...but I have a feeling it is going to turn out very long. Mainly because I am very passionate about Liberty University athletics and have been involved specifically with the football program at LU.
I have never been a coach at Liberty, and have not been directly involved with the team for a few years now. That being said, I have kept a close watch over the past few seasons and am very familiar with remaining administration, players, and coaches (though that is few now).
To start with, one of the main reasons I am posting here is to mention a man who I think could be a perfect fit for the head coaching position at Liberty. This man is Mike Singletary. As most of you know, one of the greatest NFL linebackers of all time, currently linebackers coach for the San Francisco 49ers.
I have heard Singletary speak several times, and he is a man of great integrity and has strong Christian convictions (for those of you who don't know, Singletary prayed with Walter Payton on his deathbed and lead him to Christ before he passed away).
I would be willing to guarantee that as a coaching candidate...Mike Singletary would not be challenged in terms of Christian faith and integrity. There are other reasons though why I think he would be a great fit:
1. Singletary played college ball at Baylor, which like Liberty, is also a Baptist school.
2. It would be the first african-american head coaching hire for Liberty...as far as I know. Which I think would not only improve the University's image but also help with recruiting.
3. Singletary is a defensive coach. I believe that rebuilding the program with defense could be a quicker path to success...obviously just my opinion. We tried to build through offense with the last coach and it did not work. This football program needs somethign it can pride itself on...and I believe that Singletary could bring that mental toughness.
4. I know that many of you including myself, have no idea if Singletary would take the Liberty job even if he is offered. However with the frequent hiring/firing of Nfl head coaches in the league today...and the fact that the 49ers might be making coaching changes because of their current poor season...I think this could be a positive in terms of Singletary considering Liberty if pursued.
While youre reading his you might think I am crazy, and wonder how Liberty could land such a coach. But as Dr. Fallwell himself proclaims Liberty as the nation's premiere Christian institution....if this is true, why not go after a big name coach? It seems to me like the athletic department is doing way too much "settling" for coaches. Even in basketball, I found it very hard to believe that Liberty hired a new coach several years ago, only ONE WEEK after the previous coach was dismissed. I was almost assured that the athletic director (Dr. Fallwell) would go after a big name coach. However, an ASSISTANT coach at a Division II school (Binghamton...who I believe was only 14-15 that season) was hired. Does this seem like a true attempt to develop Liberty's athletic programs and use them as a tool to increase the exposure of the school's Christian mission? Maybe I am going too far here...but I do not see a true attempt to strive for excellence...especially with the school's two biggest sports programs.
I know that new facilities are being built, etc.., and that is another great lure for a big name coach. However, the ability to hire and appoint personnel is a very big part of an athletic programs success. I just don't see this being done well at LU yet.
Well I meant to keep this short but it seems like it's not going that way. Before I finish up, there are two other names I'd like to mention. Bill Curry and Leslie Frazier. I have also came in contact with and heard these men speak on occasion...and each are men of great integrity and Chrisitan beliefs. Both have NFL and collegiate experience. I specifically believe Curry would be excellent for the Athletic Director position. Curry is currently an analyst for ESPN college football. Frazier is an NFL assistant coach. Now obviously this is just speculation, and it is possible that each of these names i've mentioned, if pursued, may not have any interest. However I believe that if Liberty University truly wants to be successful in athletics, then these are the types of individuals that must be pursued.
One last thing...
As for comparing Liberty to BYU...as some of you posted about on here...it is really pointless. BYU is a mormon institution that has existed for over a century. Liberty has existed since 1971. Tradition is a huge part of an athletic program, and right now Liberty has none, especially in football. That is why Liberty can not afford to have another bad hire and have 6 more years of unsuccessful football.
The reason I had to post all of this...Is that I truly care about ...and want to see Liberty's athletic department be successful. Football is obviously the most visible sport at every school...because it brings in the most fans, money, etc...as well as creating the most expenses. Considerable amounts of money are being invested in this school's football program .....and I am hoping certain personnel is hired to help reach the program's fullest potential. I think most of us know that with the growth of the student body and campus facilities....Liberty has a chance to not only be a great academic institution....but a great athletic institution as well.
I will probably post again soon....sorry for the novel,
LibertyGW
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Post by Sly Fox on Nov 28, 2005 1:16:23 GMT -5
LibertyGW - First off, welcome to the board and that's a great initial post. Clearly you care about the program and we'd love to have you posting here on a regular basis if you can find the time. And if you geta chance, go ahead and register. That helps us identify the folks who are legit fans of LU and those who drop by to flame away. And if you think that's a novel, we have a whole library already earlier in this thread between XXX and me.
As for your suggestion about Singletary, I think its a great idea. But I know that his alma mater made a strong push to hire him a couple of seasons ago before they grabbed Guy Morriss. At the time, Mike didn't seem to anxious to take over a losing program. Perhaps a few years and life experience might have reopened his eyes. My fear is that Jerry either has already made his decision or he is too far along in the search process to work in new candidates.
We are closing in on the 2-week timeframe that Jerry had stated he wanted to make the hires within. Frankly, the amount of info leaking out of Lynchburg has been scarce. Perhaps that is in part due to Fall/Thanksgiving break. But I hope to hear something soon because the suspense is starting to get to me.
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Post by LUconn on Nov 28, 2005 9:39:23 GMT -5
I thought Singletary was the LB coach for the Ravens? Maybe that was last season or something. Anyway, as I'm sure you of all people know Sly, there is a difference between being willing to take over a losing program and being willing to take over at Baylor. They're in the same boat with Vandy. Always the odd man out kind of a thing. Almost like they're in way over their heads and only included so the league has 12. I'm sure he's just being picky and maybe a AA school isn't for him.
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Post by bigsmooth on Nov 28, 2005 10:00:39 GMT -5
the singletary idea is a good one. he would bring a big name to the picture, and certainly bring in the qualifications to build a solid defense. though he only brings coaching experience as an assistant in baltimore and frisc, i feel he is a viable candidate. i also think he would be an asset in fundraising which is very important for a I-AA school. i think that whoever the new coach is needs to be able to reach the student body and the local community. these are the people who will fill the stadium. the new coach needs to get people excited. singletary no doubt would do this. and obviously his strong christian character is aplus.
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Post by HarrisburgFlame on Nov 28, 2005 13:33:28 GMT -5
I would stand and cheer for Lou Tepper or Dan Reeves. As a former coach I echo the statements made by xxx regarding Tepper and his standing with college football coaches. Lou Tepper is a heck of a football coach.
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Post by eddantes on Nov 28, 2005 14:09:16 GMT -5
Seriously, someone knows something on this board, and they're not leaking it. Chris Lang, I'm looking at you here. There's no way that this should be going down to the two week window wire.
If someone has any info, they need to pull a Scooter Libby and tell us what they got. I'm going mad with speculation!!!
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Post by ATrain on Nov 28, 2005 15:49:51 GMT -5
Well, I'm not Chris Lang, but here's a hint as to what you can do while you wait: Go BOW hunting in a bear's DEN.
Courtesy of the LU Fishwrap
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Post by Sly Fox on Nov 28, 2005 15:52:44 GMT -5
LUconn - Baylor was willing to pay 3-4x what we can even think about paying Singletary. And they were his alma mater. As it turned out, Guy Morriss has proved to ba great hire. He has already started turning around the perennial doormats. After beating A&M a year ago, they nearly won again this year forcing overtime.
Singletary would be awesome, IMHO. I just wonder whether he's on our radar or vice versa.
And I agree wholeheartedly with Ed's sentiments. Something has to be happening. The CIA has more leaks than this coaching search.
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Post by Chris Lang on Nov 28, 2005 16:04:51 GMT -5
Hi.
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Post by bigsmooth on Nov 28, 2005 16:30:40 GMT -5
come on chris throw us a bone! BTW, how was charleston??
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Post by PAmedic on Nov 28, 2005 17:04:10 GMT -5
there is SO much info out there on prospective coaches- I have to think Jerry has been looking into this for a WHILE and has had a LOT of help ( Oh do I HOPE SO)
No way you can make a decision of this magnitude in 2 weeks. i'm getting nervous!
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Post by Chris Lang on Nov 28, 2005 17:14:50 GMT -5
Charleston was outstanding. Seafood was awesome. Even threw some darts at The Griffon.
As for the coaching search, I can't say anything in a public forum before it appears in our newspaper. That wouldn't be fair to my employers or my sources.
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Post by thesportscritic on Nov 28, 2005 17:23:55 GMT -5
the suspense is really getting to me now!!!
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Post by Sly Fox on Nov 28, 2005 17:25:03 GMT -5
Chris shouldn't be the one spilling the beans (he'll be publishing the results as soon as he knows at the fishwrap and its website).
Its all of our contacts on the mountain who should be feeding us the inside scoop. You people know who you are. Come on, give it up.
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Post by GetRealLU on Nov 28, 2005 18:06:00 GMT -5
As a resident of Northwest Pennsylvania I can back Lou Tepper as a candidate for LU Head Coach in 2006.
Bio from Edinboro.edu
Lou Tepper, Head Coach
Veteran Division I mentor Lou Tepper was appointed the 12th head football coach at Edinboro University, officially taking charge of the Fighting Scot program on January 5, 2000. He promised a tough and classy program, and in four short years delivered a championship team that fans and alumni enthusiastically endorse.
Tepper inherited an Edinboro program which had won just eleven games in the previous three seasons. The Scots have shown consistent improvement in "Coach Tep's" five years, culminated by consecutive PSAC championships for the first time in Edinboro history, the best two-year record in Edinboro history, and the only PSAC team chosen for the NCAA Division II playoffs each of the past two seasons.
Each phase of Edinboro football has made a dramatic turn upward. The offense has averaged over 30 points and nearly 400 yards each the past two seasons, with tremendous balance between rushing and passing. The defense led the nation with 42 turnovers and 30 interceptions while playing stingy run defense in 2004. Truth be known, Tepper’s real passion is for special teams, despite his national reputation on defense. Edinboro has not had a kick blocked the last two years, while blocking four kicks a year ago, with two blocked punts returned for touchdowns.
While winning is important, it isn’t the only emphasis at Edinboro with Tepper at the controls. The participation numbers have significantly increased and academic performances have soared. He has demanded recruiting equally a combination of character and talent. The Edinboro staff stresses a family concept and racial harmony. The improvement academically has been so drastic that out of 80 players on the team following spring practice, just three were faced with academic probation.
The 2000 season brought a 5-6 record, matching the Edinboro record for wins by a first-year head coach, and a fifth place PSAC finish. In 2001 and 2002, the Fighting Scots were very competitive, setting the stage for back-to-back championship seasons.
Edinboro made its first postseason appearance in 2003, claiming a share of the PSAC West championship. The Fighting Scots survived a brutal three-game stretch early in the season, defeating 16th-ranked East Stroudsburg, 30-21, dropping a 40-34 decision to 22nd-ranked Shippensburg, and upsetting fourth-ranked Indiana(Pa.) on the Indians' home turf, 28-20. The Scotsended the regular season with a six-game winning streak. During that stretch Edinboro held opponents without a touchdown for 20 consecutive quarters. Tepper was recognized as the PSAC West Coach of the Year in 2004, as Edinboro finished with a 9-3 record and an 18th place ranking in the AFCA poll.
The Fighting Scots once again finished 9-3 and tied for the PSAC West crown a year ago, while duplicating the 2003 AFCA ranking of 18th. Edinboro picked up its second-ever NCAA postseason win with a 47-44 win at 20th-ranked Bentley.
Background Tepper, a native of Keystone, PA, returned to the Division II level after coaching at Division I institutions for almost thirty years. He is renowned as a defensive coaching genius, with a resume that includes three Butkus Award honorees and an Outland Trophy winner. Tepper's list of standouts include Bruce Smith, John Holecek, Simeon Rice, Kevin Hardy, Brad Hopkins, Booger MacFarland, and Ken Dilger, all current or former NFL standouts. In addition, he has worked with some of the top head coaches in the country, including Bill Dooley at Virginia Tech, Bill McCartney at Colorado, John Mackovic at Illinois and Gerry DiNardo at LSU.
"Being a native of western Pennsylvania, it has been neat to be a head coach again and to be a head coach in this environment," Tepper related following his first season at Edinboro. "I've recruited western Pennsylvania for half of my career. It's a joy to be back home." Tepper completed his second full season as the defensive coordinator at Louisiana State University in 1999. He began his tenure with the Tigers on December 15, 1997, helping LSU to a 27-9 Independence Bowl win over Notre Dame. All told, he has served as a defensive coordinator for 19 years in his coaching profession.
Big Ten Head Coach Lou Tepper was appointed the head coach at the University of Illinois on December 13, 1991, just prior to the team's appearance in the John Hancock Sun Bowl. He replaced Mackovic, who left for the head coaching position at the University of Texas. During his five-year stint as the Fighting Illini head coach, Tepper compiled a record of 25-31-2, including two more bowl appearances. He guided Illinois to a pair of wins over Ohio State, including one at Columbus; the school's first victory in Ann Arbor against Michigan in 27 years; and three consecutive wins over rival Iowa by a combined score of 122-17. Just as impressive, Tepper graduated a very high percentage of his Big Ten seniors.
Tepper joined the Illinois program in 1988, serving as the defensive coordinator for four seasons and assistant head coach for two years. In his nine seasons at Illinois, he helped the program to six bowl invitations, one Big Ten title and top ten rankings in the AP and UPI polls. He was honored as the Big Ten's top defensive assistant coach in 1990 by The Sporting News. His defensive units annually ranked among the best in the country, finishing 10th in 1989, 14th in 1993, ninth in 1994, and 21st in 1995.
Tepper's 1992 Illini squad finished 6-5-1, suffering a 27-17 defeat to Hawaii in the Holiday Bowl. Illinois went in to Columbus and upset Ohio State, 18-16, and posted a 22-22 tie against Michigan in Ann Arbor.
While his '93 edition finished 5-6, it included a 24-21 win in Ann Arbor against the Wolverines. The Illini made it back to postseason play in 1994, handing East Carolina a 30-0 whitewashing in the Liberty Bowl. The '94 squad finished 7-5, again upsetting one of the elite in the Big Ten. And once again it was on the road, as Illinois shocked Ohio State, 24-10, in Columbus behind Butkus Award winner Dana Howard.
Linebackers Through the years Penn State had gained the reputation as "Linebacker U", but Illinois could have made a good case for that designation as well during Tepper's tenure. He produced consecutive Butkus Award winners in Dana Howard (1994) and Kevin Hardy (1995). Along the way, he also produced Big Ten Defensive Players of the Year in Moe Gardner and Darrick Brownlow (1990), Howard (1993 and '94) and Big Ten Defensive Lineman of the Year Simeon Rice in 1994. For the only time in Big Ten history, Tepper had four first team All-Big Ten linebackers at his disposal. In all, he has coached over 20 professional linebackers, and has published a book, "Complete Linebacking", a 312-page comprehensive book on linebacker play.
Hardy and Rice became the highest defensive draft duo in the history of the NFL draft in 1996 when Hardy went second to Jacksonville and Rice third to Arizona. That stood until the 2000 NFL Draft when Penn State's Courtney Brown and Lavar Arrington went one-two.
Division I Assistant Coach In over thirty years as an assistant coach, Tepper has worked at some of the top institutions in the country. That includes the likes of Pittsburgh, Virginia Tech and Colorado, in addition to his time at Illinois and LSU.
Tepper began his coaching career as a graduate assistant at Pittsburgh in 1967, then moved on to the University of New Hampshire from 1968-71, coaching the running backs and linebackers before becoming the defensive coordinator. His next stop was the College of William & Mary, where he joined former New Hampshire head coach Jim Root as the defensive coordinator from 1972-77. The 1976 William & Mary squad posted the school's best record in thirty years. He was the assistant head coach his final year at William & Mary.
In 1978, Virginia Tech head coach Bill Dooley hired Tepper as his linebackers coach. Tepper helped build the Hokies into a consistent bowl contender with a defense that annually ranked among the nation's top ten. He stayed at Virginia Tech from 1978-82, working with Outland Trophy winner and Buffalo Bills great Bruce Smith, among others. The 1980 Hokie edition played Miami (FL) in the Peach Bowl.
Tepper joined Bill McCartney's staff at Colorado in 1983, serving as the defensive coordinator and assistant head coach until departing for Illinois in 1988. Tepper helped turn around a defense which ranked No. 100 nationally in yards allowed prior to his arrival, to one which was as high as 11th in Division I in total defense. He earned the title of assistant head coach his final two seasons, and helped the Buffaloes to the 1985 Freedom Bowl and the 1986 Blue Bonnet Bowl. Among the assistant coaches at Colorado was Gerry DiNardo, who would later bring Tepper in to direct his LSU defense.
Personal Background Tepper, born September 7, 1945, graduated from Rutgers University in 1967. He enjoyed a standout career as a defensive back at Rutgers from 1965-67. As a player, Tepper led the Scarlet Knights in interceptions as a junior and tackles as a senior. He won the George Cronin Trophy as the Most Improved Player in 1965.
Tepper is an active member of the American Football Coaches Association and has served on the All-American Committee and the AFCA Ethics Committee. He is active in the Fellowship of Christian Athletes and has spoken for Promise-Keepers, founded by former Colorado coach Bill McCartney. Tepper and his wife, Karen, have two married children, Matthew, a graduate of Edinboro with a master's degree in Counseling, and Stacy Ann, a graduate of LSU who is a full-time mother.
Head Coaching Record
Year School Overall Record Conf. Record 1991 Illinois 0-1 4-3-1 (4th, Big Ten) 1992 Illinois 6-5-1 4-3-1 (4th, Big Ten) 1993 Illinois 5-6 5-3 (T4th, Big Ten) 1994 Illinois 7-5 4-4 (T5th, Big Ten) 1995 Illinois 5-5-1 3-4-1 (T7th, Big Ten) 1996 Illinois 2-9 1-7 (T9th, Big Ten) 2000 Edinboro 5-6 2-4 (T4th PSAC West) 2001 Edinboro 4-6 3-3 (T3rd PSAC West) 2002 Edinboro 5-6 2-4 (5th, PSAC West) 2003 Edinboro 9-3 5-1 (T1st, PSAC West) 2004 Edinboro 9-3 5-1 (T1st, PSAC West) Totals 57-55-2
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Post by guest on Nov 28, 2005 19:09:00 GMT -5
I'm starting to have a sick feeling that the job has been offered to Holtz, some other big names,and divison 1 assistants and they all turned it down. I think we could end up with that highschool football coach, Christmas Candy... or whatever the heck his name is.
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Post by Sly Fox on Nov 28, 2005 19:18:58 GMT -5
I think some of our candidates would leap at the opportunity even with a paycut. I sincerely doubt Christmas is th eman. But frankly I was surprised when he was confirmed as an interview.
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Post by baldspot on Nov 28, 2005 20:07:12 GMT -5
I believe Christmas was the head coach at LCA when Jonathan was their starting fullback. Maybe we can relive the glory years again.
I like the Lou Tepper connection with Bill McCartney and Promise Keepers. That's the type of connection we need to land a top flight coach. The problem is he took an Illinois team that went 10-2 and 8-4 the two years prior to his assuming the reins and then proceeded to make them medicore at first and then later plain awful at 2-9 when he was let go. He could turn out to be another Belicheck however - terrible at Cleveland, hall of famer in NE. Who knows.
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Post by Sly Fox on Nov 28, 2005 20:27:51 GMT -5
Finally, someone brings forth solid evidence why Christmas would be interviewed for this job. Gracias, baldspot. I knew there had to be more to this than just his LCA & LBC ties from two decades ago.
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Post by jimflamesfannotatmydesk on Nov 28, 2005 22:24:22 GMT -5
Well, I think its going to be Jeff Bowden...I think that's what Eddantes was hinting at, and it looks like from the FSU board that he visited the campus last week.
So that's who I think it will be...but this is not inside information...
(jimflamesfan...at another computer)
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