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Post by Sly Fox on Jan 30, 2005 14:39:40 GMT -5
The Victoria Memorial Vipers have had their moments in the school's brief history. Wow! I never had heard of anyone moving TO Victoria from somewhere else. One of my old TV friends is Don Brubaker on Channel 25.
Small world. I worked for six years in Corpus and spent quite a bit of time in Victoria covering news & sports events,
I live up the NW side of Houston these days. But I'm working at a station down on the Southwest Freeway (US 59).
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Post by LUconn on Jan 31, 2005 8:51:53 GMT -5
Yes it does have that block lettering still on it. As ugly as that is, apparently it's a step up from what they had on it before.
The seating number varies depending on where you read it. The average is 10,000 seats but I think the actual number is 9,500 for bball games but for concerts and stuff they put seats on the floor and can be pushed to 10,500.
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Post by JackSparrow81 on Feb 1, 2005 17:41:48 GMT -5
Yeh, good ole Don Brubaker is still there, and HS sports are still the highlighjt of Victoria. One of my friends is a works with him in the news 25 place. Yeh I was suprised how much HS sports are covered here as compared to Florida or Virginia. Usually it was UCf, FSU, or UF running the whole show. Here its exact opposite., which i guess is good for the community. Victoria is alright i guess. it grows on ya after awhile, Its definitly not apermanent residency. Corpus is pretty tight, but most people would disagree. Houston is too big. San Antonio is the best city ive been in besides beevile. haha but overall texas is aight
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Post by Sly Fox on Feb 1, 2005 19:48:37 GMT -5
That block lettering is pretty brutal. It looks VERY cheesy and small time. Someone needs to take a sander to that floor and start from scratch.
Jack -- I'm not a huge fan of Victoria. I loved living in Corpus Christi. Its the best bang for the buck in a coastal community in America. You can afford to live very nicely for not much money.
Houston is enormous (4th largest city in America). But I have actually rather enjoyed living here the past few years. Traffic is brutal and the air quality is pretty awful. But there is always plenty to do.
San Antonio is a cool city to visit. But it wouldn't be anywhere close to my first choice for living in Texas. That is Austin hands down. It is a terrific city that offers everything you want from a large city with a small city feel. It is well worth the short drive up from the Crossroads particularly during the summer.
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Post by prototype on Mar 10, 2005 14:20:49 GMT -5
Here is a sneak peak. This is an exclusive look at the new court, first time released. We wanted to keep it simple, not cluttered, and more importantly not something distracting to the game. Make the most eye catching thig the actual logo, not a mountain of fire ;D There are two options on the table: Option 1 - Filling in lanes and knocking out the big south logo. Option 2 - Leaving lanes open with 2 color big south logo. What do you guys think?
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Post by PittLU on Mar 10, 2005 14:40:03 GMT -5
I LOVE option 1! I have always been a huge fan of filling in the lanes. I am watching the Big East Tournament right now and I think that lanes without color really look empty.
That logo is sharp at half court and filling in the lanes re-inforce the blue we had been talking about.
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Post by PAmedic on Mar 10, 2005 14:45:16 GMT -5
gotta sorta agree LUPitt- I like the red, but I think the blue in Opt #1 will work out better.
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Post by HarrisburgFlame on Mar 10, 2005 14:46:34 GMT -5
Prototype hats off to you it looks great. I am partial to option 1 with the colored lane. I don't mind the baselines (The Furnace) but being an old school guy I would have the baseline read "Liberty Flames".
Option 1 is cool and the center court graphic looks fantastic!
Nice job!
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Post by prototype on Mar 10, 2005 15:11:44 GMT -5
We're trying to brand the Vines as the Furnace more aggressively. And our fans as Furnace Fanatics.
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Post by HarrisburgFlame on Mar 10, 2005 15:21:01 GMT -5
but I am old school. I never thought much of the nickname to being with. But if it puts fannies in the seats your guys can paint Furnace all over the floors!!
Thanks!
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Post by PAmedic on Mar 10, 2005 16:05:05 GMT -5
H'burg- I know I'm slow but that whole "first half of my sentance in the subject line" tendancy of yours is screwing me up BIG TIME. must be a left brain, right brain kinda thing!
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Post by HarrisburgFlame on Mar 10, 2005 16:21:54 GMT -5
I know it - I do that because I get to thinking and I have to write down what I'm thinking before I forget...so I basically just start typing.
FYI - son's bedtime story tonight is going to be the 84 media guide!
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Post by Jacksparrow81 on Mar 10, 2005 18:12:59 GMT -5
I like the fill in paint too. I dont care too much for the "the furnace" part on the baseline. I think the only part that names their name might be the pit for new mexico and im not even sure about that. the furnace just sounds cheesy there. heck we can only put 2000 in the seats for Big south tournament games, where the intimidation in not filling the whole stadium and putting the name on the baseline. Great shot though its going on the background
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Post by WinthropEagleFan on Mar 10, 2005 18:30:26 GMT -5
Not that the opinion of an outsider was asked for, but I think the new center-court logo is much better than the current one, and I like option 1 as well...
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Post by prototype on Mar 10, 2005 18:43:08 GMT -5
I understand your concerns, but we have to look towards the future. If you researched they’re many colleges that name their Facilities, i.e. Dean Dome, “The fieldhouse” - Kansas, The Swamp, just to name a few. We have to build tradition here and education the students and our fans that having an atmosphere is very important to making the Vines Center a place where teams hate to play. We had 2,000 in attendance for the Big South Game, in which students had to pay for tickets. During the season we averaged over 5,000 fans a night when the students were in session. We had great crowds this year and the atmosphere was pretty good. Great? No. But a good starting point. We're not final on the Furnace, so I definitely want to here some more opinions. This is your court - we want to make YOU proud.
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Post by FireHouseRocks on Mar 10, 2005 19:25:05 GMT -5
I like the logo in the center... but why not put Liberty Flames on the baseline and "The Furnace" along the sideline at midcourt in the painted portion in front of the scorers table.
Also, I may be out in left field here... but why not use option 2 but paint the baselines and sidelines red. You already see a lot of blue in the building with the seats... the red would brighten it up and lend toward the theme of "the furnace" and "the flames." You could even take off the red outline and keep the lane clean with just the conference logo.
Just a thouht... but anything is an improvement.
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Post by SCAR on Mar 10, 2005 19:32:13 GMT -5
I like option 1 too. You knew I had to stick my 2 cents in. I like the clear lane but it has been that way for too long. Time for a change. Once again I am glad you and Dan are on the board. This board can be a real tool for change I think. W Eaglesfan, I am glad you are a contributor to this board. Stick with us and we may have you become Libertyflamesfan once we take this thing to another level.
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Post by PAmedic on Mar 10, 2005 19:43:33 GMT -5
yup- was gonna write that too: W-EF your opinion is valued any time bro!
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Post by SCAR on Mar 10, 2005 19:45:53 GMT -5
I think PA Medic would like to see a giant picture of Tharp on the center court. He wants to put Tharp's house on the end lines. ;D
PA You are my boy. You have me laughing so hard with your antics sometimes.
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Post by PAmedic on Mar 10, 2005 19:50:27 GMT -5
you'll note I posted NOT a word under that- just some RANDOM photo, purely RANDOM. trust me, would I lie to YOU? would you like to buy a good used car while you're at it? land in FLA?
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Post by V88 on Mar 10, 2005 19:55:38 GMT -5
This is a little off the topic but has any thought been given to the way the Public Address announcer incorporates "The Furnace" in his introduction. I think he says something like "Ladies and gentlemen, we now invite you to step into the furnace". Why would you "invite" someone to step into a furnace? Maybe something a little more forceful or intimidating. Just a thought.
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Post by SCAR on Mar 10, 2005 20:06:51 GMT -5
V88, I don't even know how you hear what is being said on that sound system but I'll take your word for it. I think maybe he should say something more affirmative that states that you ARE IN the FURNACE. The sound system is an obvious item for improvement but I don't know if that has been discussed on this board. I know you and I and others on this board have spoken in person about it. It is really hard to hear.
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Post by Sly Fox on Mar 10, 2005 20:13:09 GMT -5
Its even harder to hear with headsets on.
I don't have an issue with name of "The Furnace". It just doesn't fit the blue color scheme. But I have to admit forcing a self-proclaimed name on our own gym does feel a little cheesy. But I can live with it.
If we are going to market the flames/furnace aspect of the hoops experience, we need top find a way (within fire code) to get real flames in the arena during introductions/pregame. I know pyrotechnics aren't free, but it could be done for a reasonable budget. Just throwing some more ideas out to our Prototype boys.
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Post by V88 on Mar 10, 2005 20:19:18 GMT -5
Scar, I didn't realize how bad it was until I was listening to the postgame being played over the PA system and it literally sounded like the teacher on the Charlie Brown specials. I couldn't understand anything. I like the idea of the post game show being played in house, but not if the sound is that poor. Hopefully something can be done. Also, thanks for the reminder of Denver beating my Browns in the playoffs back in the day. ESPN recently showed one of those NFL films of the Browns-Broncos playoffs and it sent me into depression all over again.
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Post by PAmedic on Mar 10, 2005 20:28:14 GMT -5
puleez, try being an Eagles/Phillies/Sixers/Flyers fan!
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Post by Sly Fox on Mar 10, 2005 21:58:28 GMT -5
As a Bengals fan, watching replays of "the Drive" are as entertaining as watching my own team's games are painful. Its why I have adopted the Texans as my new primary team. I don't hate the ownership yet.
As for PA system, we need to raise money to get a new hanging scoreboard with jumbotron and audio system for Vines. That would help the experience in "The Furnace" more than anything else other than winning.
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Post by SCAR on Mar 10, 2005 23:32:58 GMT -5
V88, sorry for opening those old Browns wounds. Sly, you are right about hearing external things with a head set on. Virtually impossible. But the sound system is miserable. The Charlie Brown analogy is not even an exaggeration. All that is needed is that piano theme music they play. there has been discussion (it is my understanding) about the hanging scoreboard but I heard the Vines Center roof would implode under the stress of the weight of something like that. Too bad because a new scoreboard/JumboTron would be awesome....Sly good luck with those Texans (you may be better off with the Bengals).
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Post by Sly Fox on Mar 11, 2005 0:46:33 GMT -5
Scar -- You've been to Baylor where they have the same ceiling structure. And they have a hanging scoreboard. So I believe it can be done.
As for the Texans, they don't have all contractual baggage and overrated QB issues like certain other team names after flying bird of prey. The Texans are poised for greatness in the next year or so. As for the Bengals, .500 satisfies everyone in Cincy these days. That won't cutit down here inHouston this next fall.
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Post by SCAR on Mar 11, 2005 1:43:37 GMT -5
I hope I don't offend anyone when I say this but the Baylor building was "planned" and "well made" and "structually sound" etc. Not sure if the Vines fits those characteristics. Some things were obviously taken into consideration for the Baylor building (like office space) that were not considered in Vines construction. Also I am sure Baylor had a high budget etc. Not complaining mind you, just stating an observation.
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Post by Sly Fox on Mar 11, 2005 7:43:37 GMT -5
Point taken, Scar. I just know the roof structure appears to be identical. And just keep in mind that when the Dr. Pepper folks paid to build Ferrell Center in Waco, they did it in an open field. We were dropping a structure in a ravine. I think that might've accounted for some of the design limitations.
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