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Post by HoldMyOwn on Mar 23, 2005 23:44:40 GMT -5
Maybe I am missing something. Liberty has hired a few high-profile coaches in other sports ie. Al Worthington, Bobby Richardson, Sam Ritigliano. As some have already stated in other threads, Liberty is in a unique sitation to recruit nationally and I would say they are also in a unique situation to hire a high-profile type of coach. On a related note, I have read many posts today that put down the Big South Conference and/or blame it for our in abilites to excel athletically. While I am not a fan of the BS at all (I believe the new format for the basketball tournament is a disaster), I think that until we totally dominate in almost every faction of the conference, this is only an excuse or sour grapes. So far we haven't proved we can compete with most other conferences, at least in the major sports. Hopefully the new AD will help in this area. We have won the Sasser Cup ALOT....and correct me if I'm wrong but every year since they've kept record but 1 and we lost that by just a few points....Liberty and the BS have had a few run in's over just the past 2 years or so, and have talked about leaving, but believe it or not, Liberty is a big part of the BS and they do what they can to keep them happy
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Post by aLUmnus on Mar 25, 2005 15:20:43 GMT -5
I think Coastal has won more Sasser cups than LU.
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Post by ATrain on Mar 29, 2005 0:04:37 GMT -5
Yes-but Coastal has also been here longer than Liberty...we can't forget that.
Anyway...Winthrop's Marshall is now contracted through 2015
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Post by LUconn on Apr 4, 2005 9:58:31 GMT -5
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Post by PAmedic on Apr 4, 2005 11:35:00 GMT -5
I find that strange that UVa overlooked him
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Post by LUconn on Apr 4, 2005 11:52:37 GMT -5
Well, my point is South Carolina will not. He's probably #2 on their list with his only drawback being he's in the Big South.
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Post by PAmedic on Apr 4, 2005 12:06:30 GMT -5
Gotcha, well Godspeed Greg, good luck as a Gamec0ck
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Post by SCAR on Apr 4, 2005 12:15:00 GMT -5
Ok guys,
Here is how I heard this might play out. Odom goes to UVA, Bobby Lutz at UNC Charlotte goes to South Carolina and Charlotte hires Marshall. I heard that through the grapevine weeks ago and now that Odom is going to UVA, it might just happen. Jeff Meyer may come back to Winthrop although I have to assume Randy Peele (top assistant, former UNC-Greensboro coach during BSC years) may be considered. This could get very interesting! I have a scoop on the new owners of the Washington Nationals too but I will post it in another thread. I may be sitting in the owners box a few weeks from now (April 30th or so). If all goes well, Darryl Green and Jeff Zientz will be the new owners of the team. My sister in Law is Jeff's Nanny. I have stayed at his house many times. He is on Forbes list of richest 40 people under 40. He is higher than Jordan, Will Smith and Julia Roberts although Jordan and Julia have come off the list recently due to age. He was instrumental in getting baseball back to DC. I will open a thread on this when I get a chance but I had to share! I'm like Raisin Bran today. I provided you guys with 2 scoops!
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Post by aLUmnus on Apr 4, 2005 13:01:57 GMT -5
Does Dave Odom have any clue what he's doing? He left a great program in Wake Forest to take over at South Carolina. South Caroline!? Then a couple years later he decides to go back to the ACC, only to one of the league's inferior programs. Does he need some direction in his life or what?
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Post by V88 on Apr 4, 2005 13:40:26 GMT -5
Scar, Marshall just signed a 10 year extension at Winthrop with a considerable salary increase. Do you think he would back out of the contract now? I could see him going to Charlotte a couple of weeks ago, but not after signing the deal with Winthrop.
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Post by LUconn on Apr 4, 2005 13:41:48 GMT -5
I've read all over that Andy Katz is reporting that the initial report from the Washington Post is false. But it's an insider article so I can't read it for my self, soit may be some mass conspiracy to trick me.
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Post by LUconn on Apr 4, 2005 13:42:34 GMT -5
Do contracts really mean anything?
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Post by HarrisburgFlame on Apr 4, 2005 14:30:09 GMT -5
Marshall could get out of his deal with WU. How big of a step up for him is UNCC? Granted it's C-USA but maybe if he waits who knows? I guess being in Rock Hill, going to Charlotte is nothing - practically the same town!
I see Marshall staying at WU. WU is nationally recognized as a "Mid-major" power. Rumor has it, ESPN is planning a month long documentary on the Eagles. Comcast is launching a 24 hour Winthrop basketball channel. School in the area today were closed because students refused to attend classes until the City of Harrisburg did something to increase it's coverage of Winthrop basketball. There have been reports of riots and up to 15 people have plunged from the Harvey Taylor Bridge into the Susquehanna River to protest ESPN Classic and there obvious neglect in not showing the greatest basketball game of all time (WU's heartbreaking 10 point loss to Gonzaga).
It's not safe to live here anymore with this passion filled WU Eagles craze that has swept the NE. Why would Marshall leave the "cult-like" national following he has at WU for UNCC?
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Post by Realist on Apr 4, 2005 15:55:26 GMT -5
Odom told the press today he hasn't even spoken with UVA, and he didn't know where that rumor got started.
I doubt he'd leave for the UNCC job anyway.
From what people in the athletic department have gathered, Marshall is pretty content to stay put where he is unless USC or Clemson come calling with big money. He's big on job security (hence the long contract) and with the time he's already put in, he would get his state pension down the road staying in SC. I think ideally for him he would stay a few more years and then take the USC job. I think he took a few notes from Kresse on career choices.
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Post by HarrisburgFlame on Apr 4, 2005 15:58:40 GMT -5
I happen to agree with you. UNCC is not that big of a jump in my opinion. Why not wait for a job in one of the power conferences where you have a shot to win something big.
Welcome back Realist.
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Post by Sly Fox on Apr 4, 2005 19:49:24 GMT -5
Charlotte is headed to the A-10 ... a league which is losing schools as we speak. I think they jumped from C-USA a little too quickly.
All that said, I'm sure they can pay Marshall MUCH better than Winthrop. And as mentioned earlier in the thread, he doesn't have to sell his house & move.
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Post by PAmedic on Apr 4, 2005 21:48:15 GMT -5
I am admitting my ignorance here (write THAT one down). I need SOMEONE to explain all these Uxx-XX schools to me. (Did that make sense?) I'm referring to the trend of UNC-C, UNC-R, UNC-A, UNC-B, UNC-whatever: you get my point. I was always under the impression that if your grades sucked you had to go to a "dash" school before transf to the MAIN campus of the U of XXX system. w/ H-burg saying something about UNC-C being Conf-USA, now I'm wondering- I mean, its not Big 10, ACC or what ever, but I though most "dash" schools were D2 or 3. Is this a new thing- to make them compete w/ the "REAL" campuses, or are they not even related to each other any more? Sorry so long.
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Post by Sly Fox on Apr 4, 2005 21:54:13 GMT -5
Penn State has more campuses than anybody else. But they don't give full status to their other campuses like some schools. Here in Texas there are three university systems. In North Carolina, UNC is the only one that has really developed. Chapel Hill obviously is the mothership with Charlotte being the 2nd largest school in the system (and a very large one at that). Pennsylvania is behind the curve as usual. But what's new?
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Post by PAmedic on Apr 4, 2005 21:58:46 GMT -5
HAH! but you're point is well taken. Its hysterical to think about Penn State- Ambler or Penn State- Ogontz forming a team and taking on JoePa in football. In fact, I don't think any of the baby State campuses have teams AT ALL in ANY sport.
The PA state university system does include MANY schools though, and they are all unique (Penn State, University of Pennylvania, University of Pittsburg -despite what LUPitt calls it, East Stroudsburg University, many others)
thanx SLY
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Post by El Scorcho on Apr 4, 2005 22:12:35 GMT -5
The UNC breakdown goes like this:
UNC: Usually means the main campus at Chapel Hill. UNC-C: Now referred to as "Charlotte", but I think that's just for athletic purposes. Div. I. UNC-W: Located in Wilminton, the Seahawks also compete in Div. I. UNC-G: Greensboro. Duh. Div. I. UNC-A: The Asheville campus is growing quickly, and the Bulldogs (obviously to Big South fans) compete in Div. I as well. UNC-P: Pembroke is the smallest school in the UNC system. They're a Div. II school.
Those are the official UNC "dash" schools. Other schools in the UNC system include North Carolina State University (Div I), East Carolina University (Div I), North Carolina Central University, Appalachin State University (Div I), Western Carolina University, Winston-Salem State University, North Carolina A&T State University, Fayetteville State University, Elizabeth City State University and the North Carolina School of the Arts. Those I didn't designate are either Div. II or they don't compete in NCAA athletics.
Out of all of those schools, NCSU has (by far) the highest enrollment, followed by UNC.
Bonus fact: The "Triangle" area of North Carolina (Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill) has more PhD's per capita than any other area of the United States.
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Post by Realist on Apr 4, 2005 23:43:51 GMT -5
UNCC is a huge school. However they don't have much support for their basketball or sports programs in general relative to it's size. My guess is Lutz doesn't make much more than Marshall, if at all.
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Post by LUconn on Apr 5, 2005 6:46:59 GMT -5
The problem with him waiting is the power leagues may pass on a guy who's only been successful in the Big South. They may want to see if he can recruit and win in CUSA or MVC. I know he's on USC's list but that may give someone else the nod over him. But I guess if he's content at Winthrop...
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Post by SCAR on Apr 5, 2005 7:56:55 GMT -5
El Scorcho,
Western Carolina and North Carolina A&T are Division I. A&T plays in the MEAC and Western plays in the Southern Conference. FYI for inquiry minds.
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Post by Mark on Apr 5, 2005 7:58:56 GMT -5
Lots of other examples of D-I "dash" schools, the most famous one being UCLA...but don't forget Texas-El Paso, Alabama-Birmingham, Nevada-Las Vegas, Texas-Arlington, Texas-San Antonio, Louisiana-Lafayette, Louisiana-Monroe, Arkansas-Little Rock, Illinois-Chicago, Tennessee-Chattanooga. The two Louisiana schools don't actually have a just plain University of Louisiana that they are attached to. Louisiana-Lafayette used to be the University of Southwest Louisiana and wanted to become the University of Louisiana. From what I have read (perhaps Tiger Dave can enlighten us if he is still around) there was some pressure applied by LSU to get the state legislature to pass a law stating that they could only change their name if one of the other Louisiana directional schools changed their name and then each school would have to keep the city name attached. NE Louisiana agreed to make a change as well and became Louisiana-Monroe. Boy, this is a long post for something you guys couldn't care less about. I guess I'll just claim 'administrator privledge' on this one.
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Post by SCAR on Apr 5, 2005 8:02:14 GMT -5
Mark, while you are online, can you get us back into Daylight savings time? Spring forward my friend, Spring forward . Our posts stamps are 1 hour behind.
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Post by Sly Fox on Apr 5, 2005 12:40:46 GMT -5
Mark --- For a Michigander, you sure are up on Louisiana. There was a general upheaval among Ragin Cajuns when USL first made a name change. And their first football game after the switch was at Texas and they had 'Louisiana' across the front of their jerseys. Now they are affectionately known down here as ULaLa (as in Ooo Lah Lah).
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Post by Mark on Apr 5, 2005 14:53:51 GMT -5
Mark, while you are online, can you get us back into Daylight savings time? Spring forward my friend, Spring forward . Our posts stamps are 1 hour behind. Appears that the change needs to be made in the user profiles. I don't know if changing mine changes them all or not. Mine is changed. If yours is not changed, go into your profile and enter +1 into the time box near the bottom. I'm not sure why this is as we didn't have to do this last fall.
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Post by LU Fan on Apr 5, 2005 16:20:02 GMT -5
Speaking of dash schools once again....can't forget my favorite IUPUI.....Indiana University/Purdue University at Indianapolis....
commonly known as... ooo(long O's)E- poooh-E
almost as fun as Pops Mensu-Bonsu ( GW star)
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Post by PAmedic on Apr 6, 2005 7:22:57 GMT -5
Lots of other examples of D-I "dash" schools, the most famous one being UCLA...but don't forget Texas-El Paso, yeah, thats exactly what I was referring to- UCLA vs Cal- who is the "real" school? Is UCLA just a "substation" or a stand alone university? same question about UTEP. and if these are all branch schools, why different mascots- aren't you REALLY a Longhorn even at UTEP? (and hello, a Bruin IS a bear, tho I don't know about golden) there is no Penn State -XXX : tigers or panthers, etc. Any Penn Stater is a Nitney Lion, though (I'm 99.9% sure) you can't GRADUATE from any other campus than the MAIN out in State College, PA. Mark- keep on postin' bro- good to see ya on here.
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Post by PAmedic on Apr 6, 2005 7:25:30 GMT -5
boy did we get off the whole Greg Marshall thing- my fault for a mind that produces wacky random thought. I should change my screen name to SpartanToo
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