tallyw
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Post by tallyw on Nov 18, 2005 19:41:55 GMT -5
We've heard a lot about LU needing a "Big Name". Does anyone have any thoughts about who this 'Big Name' will be considering most coaches have jobs already.
I'm wondering if we're going to get a AD/Coach like some big name coaches in the NFL want the GM/Coach job.
We've heard Holtz' name tossed around...
Is there anyone else out there that would work?
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Post by krh44 on Nov 18, 2005 20:29:59 GMT -5
Falwell just spoke at the halftime of the girls game and he said we are looking at 3 candidates who have been at the DI level. He did say that he will wait until next weekend when the football season is over. Hum, apparebtly this person is still coaching.
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Post by coastal89 on Nov 18, 2005 21:05:29 GMT -5
Falwell said no matter who the new head football coach is, four members of the current coaching staff will remain: strength and conditioning coach Bill Gillespie, his assistant Dave Williams, assistant head coach Pete Sundheim and director of spiritual development Ed Gomes.
If these 4 are staying as the article said then wouldn't you think the new coach has been on campus to meet them already? Or could that decision have been made by Dr. Falwell? |
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Post by guestforever on Nov 18, 2005 21:15:10 GMT -5
Did Falwell say "have been at the D-1 level" or "are at the D-1 level". That might tell us if it's an older former coach or someone who is still coaching. Here's my speculation list...
1. Lou Holtz...I just don't see him coaching at LU...but stranger things have happened
2. Jeff Bowden...Offensive cordinator at Florida St.
3. Bob Christmas...a high school coach in Georgia with ties to Lynchburg...don't know if he was ever at the D-1 level
4. Frank Rocco(sp)...coach at LCA
5. Dan Rocco...assistant at UVA...brother of Frank Rocco
6. Bob Lahey...former assistant at Liberty under Rutigliano...was coaching at D-1 level but not sure where he is now.
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tallyw
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Post by tallyw on Nov 18, 2005 21:18:50 GMT -5
Re: Coastal89
Those guys mentioned bleed LU.
I'm certain with Gomes and Sundheim especially that these were the result of Falwell's direct input.
There is a lot of history there with those two families especially. They may be moved around but they are supported by Dr. Falwell. Besides, these guys will be great for the new coach to lean on with regard to navigating LU's landscape.
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Post by eddantes on Nov 18, 2005 21:50:54 GMT -5
For some reason, and I don't know why, but Jeff Bowden's name jumped off the page.
1 - Jeff Bowden
2 - Fisher DeBerry
3 - Skip Holtz.
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Post by Jacksparrow82 on Nov 18, 2005 21:57:57 GMT -5
Jeff Bowden is the biggest idiot in college football today. LU doesn't need his crazy play calling at all.
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Post by Sly Fox on Nov 18, 2005 22:18:50 GMT -5
Frankly, I have some reluctance in speculating on this forum with our outgoing staff still preparing for tomorrow's game.
In deference to Coach Karcher and his staff, I'll share my feelings Sunday.
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Post by PAmedic on Nov 19, 2005 11:20:35 GMT -5
exactly my thoughts. keepin it on the back burner for another 24
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Post by eddantes on Nov 19, 2005 15:43:01 GMT -5
Karcher's post-game quotes on the radio were classy. Just thought I'd mention that.
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Post by FSHFlash on Nov 19, 2005 21:56:42 GMT -5
FYI......Bob Lahey is at ULM in Monroe, La. The HC is Weatherby that was at Navy. (He may be available.) They are in the run for a conference championship in the Sun Belt Conference which is 1-A. Have done a good job.
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Post by TDDance234 on Nov 20, 2005 8:53:15 GMT -5
I'm still on the Holtz bandwagon.
I think it's going to happen.
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Post by krh44 on Nov 20, 2005 13:44:02 GMT -5
Sly - It's Sunday what is your prediction?
A Bowden would be nice or Deberry but I am thinking the Rocco at UVa or the asst that was here under Sam who went to UVa. Peter something
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Post by aunt on Nov 20, 2005 14:25:55 GMT -5
Come on Sly do tell. Aunt..
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Post by Sly Fox on Nov 20, 2005 15:31:31 GMT -5
My belief is that the AD position is Lou's if he wants it. Frankly, I doubt he does for a number of reasons that have nothing to do with our school. After that, I think we need someone who can raise money like nobody's business (an area where Lou would certainly excel). Perhaps this person is a figurehead who can sign up donors ont he golf course while a tried & true administrator does the dirty work back in the office. Remember, there are several positions open in the Athletic Office. As for head coach, I don't think that is determined until the AD situation is cleared up. Any self-respecting AD that comes in (including Lou) will want to have something to say to Jerry about the head coaching position. Perhaps it is nothing more agreeing with Jerry's decision, but out of respect for the AD title that person should be involved in such a major decision. The name I have been hearing for several weeks now is Jeff Bowden. He fits the profile of being a young coach with bigtime credentials. But keep in mind he's not exactly done a bang up job for the Seminoles the past couple of seasons. In fact, it doesn't take much of a Google search to discover all kinds of online rantings about his questionable playcalling (something jacksparrow referenced recently) from the Seminole fanbase. As a result, he is probably available for the taking. But he would arrive on campus with some question marks associated with him. But then again, what young coach not named Urban doesn't come with plenty of doubters? Here's further confirmation of rumors regarding the Rocco at UVa from the Richmond fishwrap: www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD%2FMGArticle%2FRTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1128768263691&path=!sports!colleges&s=1045855934926 With the Football Operations Center underway and the backing of Jerry to prepare for a move to I-A, the AD & Head Football Coach positions are actually more attractive int he maketplace than many of you may believe. We have an opportunity in front of us right now to make a terrific decision that could send us soaring the next few years. On the other hand, we could continue our less than graceful fall. Let's pray the Lord gives Jerry wisdom in this matter. |
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Post by HarrisburgFlame on Nov 20, 2005 15:44:37 GMT -5
Both of those names are disappointing to me. Jeff Bowden has done less with more talent than just about any coach in college football. Not sure about Rocco. My only concern is that we're getting guys with NO head coaching experience. I'll get drilled for this but Coach Karcher's resume is better than either one of the guys mentioned.
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Post by Sly Fox on Nov 20, 2005 15:48:55 GMT -5
Hburg -- I sincerely doubt Rocco is being considered. And as far as the youngest Bowden is concerned, I just have been hearing too much from folks on campus who should know that he has been under consideration for some time. Perhaps it is Bobby pushing Jerry to consider his son who is under some duresse in Tallahassee. But that is what I'm hearing.
Honestly, I think the final selections may not have been mentioned on this board yet. I agree with the premise that we won't be hiring a Division II coach. The person will be coming from either the NFL or major I-A program ranks in all likelihood. It would be great to have someone with head coaching experience. But it may not happen/
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Post by baldspot on Nov 20, 2005 15:48:57 GMT -5
My only concern is that whoever they bring in does not think he is bigger than the purpose of the school itself. Early on this was a big problem for Sam. I remember Sam giving an interview to the Roanoke Times stating he had full reign over enrollment of his players. Later that year, he convinced Jerry to let his coaches decide which players should fall under the school's descipline procedures. Not to go into a lot of details, but the school was all but ripped apart on several discipline issues that got widespread attention on campus. Soon it became vogue to root against the football team. Efigies being burned etc. Just hoping the next coach has the same type of credentials with the prima dona attitude.
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Post by Sly Fox on Nov 20, 2005 15:50:55 GMT -5
Points well taken, baldspot. Considering that we now have that past experience to use as groundwork I am confident these matter can be hammered out prior to anyone arriving on campus.
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Post by baldspot on Nov 20, 2005 15:53:13 GMT -5
Correction on my last log, that should be "without" the attitude.
BTW, I think we played Samford U one year when Terry Bowden was their head coach.
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Post by Another Guest on Nov 20, 2005 16:44:17 GMT -5
Sly Fox wrote: "I think we need someone who can raise money like nobody's business (an area where Lou would certainly excel). Perhaps this person is a figurehead who can sign up donors on the golf course while a tried & true administrator does the dirty work back in the office."
Sly--I thought that's what Park was for--to raise $$ while Graham did the internal "dirty work." Of course, if he was tied at the hip to Karcher then I could see where he would have to go.
Any chance that Dunton gets the AD job (he has experience at it from one of his previous stops)--wouldn't that get the "Guests" posts conspiracy theorists hopping? I think there are other D-I football schools where the hoops coach is also the AD.
And what about luring TERRY Bowden out of the booth? He certainly is a "name" and has a legit track record. In the Virginia area, would Bud Foster at VA Tech work at LU? Not sure about his faith, though?
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Post by HarrisburgFlame on Nov 20, 2005 16:45:18 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification Sly. I have no inside sources but my sense is Jerry is going to pull off something big. If we get an assistant, I would hope it would be a real name assistant like a Bud Foster or the like. Jeff Bowden has the name - but also the reputation of being a mediocre coordinator. Given the fact we had to buy out Coach K's contract - we need to make the switch WELL worth the while. I wish the list looked like this:
Lou Holtz
Dan Reeves
Fisher DeBerry
Morgan Hout - that was for you Medic
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Post by ATrain on Nov 20, 2005 17:30:51 GMT -5
Had a weird dream last night..."JERRY BRIBES FRANK BEAMER WITH $30 MILLION CONTRACT" on the front page of the News and Advance...it was a good dream, but we all know its just that...a dream. I just hope that whoever we get, he'll do a great job, convince us students we should be out there supporting them (best way is to WIN) and also reach out to get the community involved as well.
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Post by HarrisburgFlame on Nov 20, 2005 18:03:48 GMT -5
ATrain:
You are wise beyond your years...we need a good mixer who can interact with the student body and generate some interest on campus.
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Post by Sly Fox on Nov 20, 2005 20:20:22 GMT -5
Let's aim a little higher than Beamer ... how about Mack Brown? ;D
Seriously, I honestly believe one or more of the candidates Jerry has been in contact with are flying below our radar right now. It will be interesting to learn more in the coming days.
Surely some of our spies on campus have to have seen SOMETHING that would tip Jerry's hand.
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Post by Stevev on Nov 20, 2005 20:48:28 GMT -5
I hope that this new coach, whoever it may be (I'm not even going to try to speculate right now) does a better job of coaching than what Sam R did. I know Sam did better than Karcher did not that ain't saying much. Hopefully it won't be some old guy who is ready to retire within 5 years of hiring him. Some of the names brought up kind of surprise me but we will see. Need some quick results which means getting some JUCO's or better yet some 1A transferes who can make an immediate impact. Maybe some of Karcher remains will develp quickly especially the true freshmen who got significant playing time. Whoever can do that can have success and maybe compete with the likes of Rutgers and Wake Forest's of the world.
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Post by Stevev on Nov 20, 2005 20:52:28 GMT -5
Could the new guy be the head football coach and athletic director in one? If we bring in someone with a "name".
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Post by flamesfan710 on Nov 20, 2005 21:10:51 GMT -5
Let's aim a little higher than Beamer ... how about Mack Brown? ;D Seriously, I honestly believe one or more of the candidates Jerry has been in contact with are flying below our radar right now. It will be interesting to learn more in the coming days. Surely some of our spies on campus have to have seen SOMETHING that would tip Jerry's hand. well most of us went home for break. Id ask seanspeaker. I think he is still floating around there and could get us some information |
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Post by jvegas14 on Nov 20, 2005 21:16:28 GMT -5
Sly - It's Sunday what is your prediction? A Bowden would be nice or Deberry but I am thinking the Rocco at UVa or the asst that was here under Sam who went to UVa. Peter something Jerry Petercuskie - great guy .. good coach. However, square peg in a round hole for LU. And yes, from a previous post. LU played Samford during the '90 season and Terry Bowden was their coach. |
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Post by Sly Fox on Nov 20, 2005 21:27:52 GMT -5
Steve - I sincerely doubt we'll go the combo AD/Coach route. It hasn't proved very practical in recent years as programs have become so time-intensive. Most coaches don't want to mess with the hassles associated with being an AD. But anything can happen.
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